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When Tata Docomo announced their launch of 3G services by Diwali, people got excited by dreaming of mainstream affordable 3G services. It was expected from an operator who shaked the market with their innovative tariff plans.
People got more excited when BSNL introduced their longer validity data plans on which you can enjoy Unlimited 3G connectivity at just Rs 700/month for 6 months.
Hoping a new tariff war on 3G data segment people became more hopeful. But Tata Docomo did not care listen to us, they bring some crazy plans which are basically sick, and nobody will opt for. Users favor BSNL and bully Tata Docomo in their own 3G Life forums, Orkut community and other online forums.
Now why Tata Docomo can not be a game changer on 3G, inspite of they are backed by world’s leader of 3G innovations NTT Docomo. Let’s check it.
21Mbps HSPA+ Network – Just a term ?
Tata Docomo says their network can enable to deliver upto 21Mbps downlink on HSPA+ network. But no user showed any speed test of more than 4Mbps. It strongly suggesting they currently deployed basic HSPA 3.6Mbps BTS over areas. Even as their website shows at present they are selling only HSPA 7.2Mbps 3G modem at Rs 2600 (that’s well priced) – 21Mbps from Tata Docomo is just a dream right now.
BSNL/MTNL has 3.6Mbps HSPA network, which is been upgrading to 7.2Mbps HSPA. Speedtest.net results from many users from Bangalore support the fact. So this 21Mbps download speed is just advertising gimmick ?? And as other operators are coming with 3G services, will follow this trend. Airtel, Reliance all are saying their network will deliver upto 21Mbps downlink.
In brief you will find most BTS (of any operator) will offer upto 3.6Mbps speed (on practical around 2Mbps), a few will offer 7.2Mbps and if you get a 21Mbps BTS that’ll be too lucky for you.
And Tata Docomo has offered speed based wireless data plans!
Mixing up Voice & Data plans – Tata Docomo 3G Tariff plans
Tata Docomo mixes up whole 3G thing; they introduced high cost 3G voice data combo plans. Voice tariff should be same on 2G and 3G network, main price difference will be on data connection. Tata Docomo’s 3G life plans are complex at a point – because not always you need high speed internet on mobile.
Have a look of current default GPRS/EDGE (2G) tariff plans from different operators:
| Operator | Default Tariff |
| Airtel | 30p/50kB = Rs 6/MB |
| Reliance | 5p/10kB = Rs 5/MB |
| Idea | 2p/kB = Rs 20/MB |
| Vodafone/Aircel and others | 10p/10kB = Rs 10/MB |
| BSNL/ MTNL (2G/3G) | 1p/10kB = Re 1/MB |
And you are expecting affordable 3G tariff plans from these private telecom operators? No Cheap 3G by Private Operators !!
Teethering will not be allowed when you are on Small-Screen plans
If you subscribe to any of small screen plans, you can not use internet on PC or laptop by connecting your mobile via USB.
So even if you have a 3G handset and Tata Docomo 3G connection, can not enjoy 3G high speed internet on PC/laptop unless you take their Large Screen plans with 3G USB Modem. Till now it is not sure they will allow to use your own data card or not!
speed Throttling – They care for network, not for users.
It is expected they will throttle the torrent speed also, even if that’s legitimate bittorrent download, for eg Linux distros.
Fair Usage Policy
They are saying it is Wireless Broadband and capping the speed to 128kbps after certain usage. Broadband as per TRAI is always on connection with minimum 256kbps bandwidth! More fun come when you will see their ‘Limit 2 Speed Capping’ – they will restrict speed at 10kbit/sec!
And all these comes on Tata Docomo ‘Smart 3G life plans‘.
You can’t make calls/SMS from Tata Docomo 3G life USB Modem
Value Added Services
Value Added Services, I personally hate them so much! There are lots of offerings and services (mostly at premiere price) will come with 3G. Operators will push Video calls and Mobile TV. A lot of 3G handsets do not have a front camera to support video calls.
And in case of Mobile TV you will be charged for each KB transferred to your mobile along with subscription charge. And Tata Docomo video calling comes at 5p/second i.e. Rs3/min and you can call only onnet numbers i.e. @5p/sec you can call only to Tata Docomo 3G users.
Though 3G roaming over all circles is not available at present from Tata Docomo and other private operators, but it will come very soon. And with pan India 3G presence BSNL/MTNL will be biggest gainer by these roaming agreements of private operators.
Conclusion
At this point I have a soft feeling for ex-telecom minister A.Raja who gave away 2G licenses and India saw cheapest tariff on mobile. Despite of the face 3G is a costly business mobile broadband has to be priced moderately from the very fast, to lure subscribers to use 3G services and generate profit.
Most important part of 3G is ‘Mobile Broadband’ and it has huge scope to kick up ARPU and operators will be able to recover money invested on 3G licese buy and network upgradation.
Brief Comparison of present Wireless Broadband Providers:
ritz January 31, 2011 at 8:06 pm
tata docomo is failing to live up to peoples expectations in 3g pricing..
they should come up with affordable 3g plans … then only more people will be interested to join their nework….they are still far far away from becoming indias largest GSM network
This article is informative and the writer has presented a nice and critical view point.
kudos..keep it up
CA S Sharma January 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm
I recently purchased the Tata Docomo 3G Life connection @ 7.2 Mbps speed at Haridwar (UK). It is giving horrible connectivity – worse than 2G connection and charges are high. Customer Care is least bothered and not even willing to respond to written complaints. No support, no signal, no sense in purchasing 3G Life – continue using any 2G connection from BSNL if you don’t want to become a BP patient
Rajat Jain January 14, 2011 at 4:14 pm
@mohit
Let me knw abut u mohit.. R u using Docomo in Firozabad ??
Srinidhi December 22, 2010 at 10:36 am
Got myself a BSNL 3G datacard recently. really amazing.
got max download speed as high as 700kBps (ie conn speed 5.5 Mbps).
Only for Rs 700 per month. Dont think someones going to beat that..
Noufal December 9, 2010 at 4:13 pm
With this price they will get Tata’s or Birla’s only (smtimes even they will choose BSNL!!). Never we can say it is a competition. Its one side war by BSNL/MTNL. They let their subscribers to roam free over MTNL/BSNL networks and so it is a pan india network. on 2G, DOCOMO got license for almost free from raja, but for 3G they paid the price, and this shows the difference. They NEED TO BRING DOWN THE tariff to earth, so that an avg indian can buy.
mohit December 8, 2010 at 11:52 pm
docomo 3g live
VISHKI December 6, 2010 at 10:00 pm
they should also let the users use their data limit to browser via pc/laptop. whether small plans or big plans, as long as the customers are within their limit, there should not be any restrictions, what is the fun of 3g if it is restricted to just phones.
riju December 6, 2010 at 8:35 pm
But in kerala airtel is a small operator.They have market share less than 12%.
riju December 6, 2010 at 8:03 pm
it is not correct.BSNL EVDO may be worst in your circle but in kerala circle they have good coverage and giving 3.1 mbps speed.in kerala bsnl evdo covering more than 120 cities.
riju December 6, 2010 at 7:57 pm
in kerala docomo is not a best operator.idea bsnl and vodafone are the best operator in kerala,when considering Qos and coverage.aircel is not a good operator but they are better than docomo.
sahil December 6, 2010 at 6:37 pm
If you are getting 135 maximum then it is for sure that the particular bsnl tower doesn’t have EVDO & it is running on CDMA 1X which gives maximum speed of 153Kbps. So if you are getting 135kbps out of 153kbps then it is still good.
You should contact your nearest BSNL Exchange & enquire about the nearest tower to you, whether it has been upgraded to work on EVDO network or not. There is no point blaming BSNL as a whole.
romila December 6, 2010 at 5:33 pm
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Yea vry true..bsnl evdo sucks in kolkata. Bt its only data service. Tata docmo is good in 2g. But they r reallynt good on three g. nt xpctd frm ttsl.
pranton December 6, 2010 at 4:44 pm
tata docomo is the best for those who want to waste money for the sake of brand image .bsnl provides a good speed and tariff for 3g and 2g better go for it . call madi(me) 8050826515 . for further clarification for data cards and tariff
Ganesh December 6, 2010 at 12:09 pm
TATA down down! I hate their 3G plans! I’ll never switch to them even after MNP!
RAGHU December 6, 2010 at 11:37 am
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
iam telling Uninor has much lesser call drops. 99.9% of the time there are no call drops. Docomo is just waste.
suvra December 6, 2010 at 10:46 am
BSNL EVDO is the worst service operator, they don’t have any BTS which can give speed at least 256kbps, they are giving maximum speed 135 kbps instead 1mpbs minimum as promised. So in kolkata my friends don’t go for BSNL EVDO(2.5 mbps).They don’t have even any proper EVDO tower in Dhakuriya, Gariyahat in Kolkata
Benny December 6, 2010 at 10:20 am
why is everyone deviating from the topic???
Lets stick to the topic and talk abt the goddam Docomo and its stupid unrealistic plans for 3g
Keshav Jha December 6, 2010 at 10:03 am
I am talking about WCDMA not EDGE.
Arun December 6, 2010 at 7:27 am
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
i am an airtel user in kerala.I am satisfied with their service and coverage.In trivandrum 75% of youth using airtel mainly bcoz of their gprs &sms offers. Out of my 527 contacts 378 are airtel
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 6, 2010 at 6:17 am
@RAGHU
Man I Won’t Agree With You. COZ Uninor Has No Call Drops
RAGHU December 5, 2010 at 10:23 pm
@Amit.G
i have also seen Uninor less call drops when compared to Docomo. in the next few months we will see a lot of improvement in signals.
RAGHU December 5, 2010 at 10:20 pm
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
i do not agree what u said abt Reliance i have also seen personally Reliance CDMA is also good in Karnataka . RGSM as confirmed by Amit.g have done a lot of improvement.
Rudradeep Biswas December 5, 2010 at 10:12 pm
yeah thats true, partially, For onnet night calling i still using docomo! on 2G docomo is ok, but we r talking about tata doc0mo 3G ! here it fails to create magic!
tushar k. December 5, 2010 at 10:03 pm
for good gprs and on-net calling offers i will always support docomo
Santu Sovan Mandal December 5, 2010 at 9:03 pm
@Amit.G
Docomo has good coverage in kolkata but poor in rest of bengal. I also agree with you on the QOS matter.
Amit.G December 5, 2010 at 8:56 pm
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
I just now checked voice clarity of Idea & Uninor with a simple test( first call idea-Idea keep one phone near speaker playing song in mild volume & hear from other & same with uninor-uninor) Wat i noticed is with uninor u can hear 80% of music( beats,treble etc ) while in Idea u can hear upto 60% as we cant hear music clearly. But Idea,Airtel & vodafone fall in the same category!!
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 8:53 pm
@Amit.G
EVEN NOWADAYS I OBSERVED THAT DOCOMO IS GETTING WORST IN QUALITY OF SERVICE. BEFORE 3G THEY WERE EXCELLENT BUT NOW DOCOMO GONE MAD.
Amit.G December 5, 2010 at 8:18 pm
@Santu Sovan Mandal
But in karnataka docomo has better coverage than uninor but wat i feel personally is uninor made slow start and now gaining pace and they are commited to thier business with high QOS like zero call drops and instant connectivity. but docomo made made big start n slowly went down and even QOS is not good in docomo!!!
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 8:04 pm
@riju
Are They (Aircel) Expanding Their Coverage in Kerala Coz i’m Asking That Aircel is Aggressively Rolling Out Their Coverage in Karnataka That’s Why. And One Thing RIJU, Some Of The Kerala People Enter Into TT and They Claiming DOCOMO as Kerala’s Own Operator But One Thing I’D Like To Request That Without QoS(QUALITY of SERVICE), Coverage an Operator Cannot Be Claimed as The Best Operator in That State For Example Take Your State Only i.e. KERALA Here BSNL, IDEA, VODAFONE and Aircel are Good Service Providers. Coming To Tamilnadu Aircel, BSNL, Vodafone are Best Operators Coming To ANDHRA PRADESH AirTel, Idea, Vodafone are The Best Operators and Coming To Karnataka All Operators are Excellent Except Reliance and DOCOMO So Pls i Request To Kerala People Like Vaneesh to Speak Properly With Other States People
riju December 5, 2010 at 7:31 pm
i dont think so
riju December 5, 2010 at 7:29 pm
ya aircel is better than docomo in kerala when considering coverage and quality of service.
Santu Sovan Mandal December 5, 2010 at 7:15 pm
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
If we compare uninor & docomo, uninor have much better coverage. Docomo has better 2g gprs plans.
Amit.G December 5, 2010 at 7:12 pm
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
May be now in bangalore aircel has 3G experience zones in forum mall,mantri mall, indira nagar n in some other place which i dont remember. u can see lot of hoardings of aircel 3g in bangalore. infact even airtel has put up lot of hoardings abt 3G
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 6:42 pm
@Amit.G
Buddy I Came To Know That Aircel Will Kickstarts 3G Services Either in December 25th Or On Sankranthi Festival This Was Told By an Aircel Professional Who is Working in Malleshwaram Area
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 6:24 pm
@Amit.G
I’ve inserted The Same in My Samsung Mobile But in That Also i’m Getting Zero and to Check Whether it’s My Mobile Problem I’ve Inserted My Aircel Sim Card. I Found that Aircel Connection is Working Fine Without Disconnection.
dskushwaha December 5, 2010 at 5:57 pm
In 2G using EDGE we can get upto 236.8 kbit/s. So BSNL is not supposed to restrict speed to 128 kbit/sec.
Amit.G December 5, 2010 at 5:56 pm
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
Why dont u try with another Docomo sim or put the existing sim in different handset
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 5:24 pm
@Amit.G
Man I’m Not Able to Catch DOCOMO Tower Signals Even Though The Tower is 400M AWAY From My Home i.e. Yesterday i’ve Purchase Duplicate Card Of Docomo cos My Original Card Got Damaged and That New Card Was Activated in Outlet and i Got Full Signal But I’m Not Getting Connectivity After Getting Back To My Home and i Taken Back The Sim Card and told that I’m Not Able To Get Full Signals But He Rudely Spoken With me That The Sim Cards are Manufacturing Like This. So i’ve Thrown DOCOMO and Decided to Buy Out MTS Because Their QoS is Better Than DOCOMO
Kalpesh December 5, 2010 at 5:12 pm
I think Docomo is not ready for 3G. They have launch 3G in Hurry. Thats why they are giving 3G at high cost so there will be less number of users in 3G and in meantime they will upgrade their infrastructure for large 3G customer base. After infrastructure gets ready they will reduce their 3G Tariff.
Currenty they have video call for Docomo to Docomo. That clearly shows that they are not ready for 3G.
Renish December 5, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Docomo Down….Down….
Keshav Jha December 5, 2010 at 4:31 pm
It’s not for your area. It’s only for you.
Amit.G December 5, 2010 at 4:31 pm
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
Now wat problem are u facing with docomo??? b’cos before u were the hardcore supporter of docomo
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 4:17 pm
@Proximus
I Think Aircel is Better Than DOCOMO in Kerala no? And i Request Kerala People Not To Buy DOCOMO Cos They Show Their Real Character
Proximus December 5, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Tata Docomo Starts with a Boom and now its going down,and they are showing all marketing gimmicks,most of the users will cancel Tata Docomo Connection.Tata Doco,o is one othe service provider with a very very poor network coverage.
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 1:45 pm
@Amit.G IF UNINOR KICKSTARTS THEIR COVERAGE OPERATION DEFINITELY DOCOMO WILL BE KICKED OUT
Gaurab December 5, 2010 at 1:32 pm
“Tata Docomo says their network can enable to deliver upto 21Mbps downlink on HSPA+ network. But no user showed any speed test of more than 4Mbps.”
-I would just like to say that if an operator is saying that network can support up to X mbps DL, this is if only one user is present and full bandwidth is given to him.
So if 20 users are present under a BTS/BS/eNodeB, they will experience a (X/20) mbps DL speed (very roughly, because there are so many other parameters like distance of mobile from base station, channel condition etc).
So 3.6 Mbps will become 184 kbps.
One may use sites like speedtest(dot)net etc and try to ping any US server to get such realizations.
Please forgive me if I am being boring and technical here.
Just thought of sharing a piece of information.
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 5, 2010 at 1:19 pm
@Santu Sovan Mandal
If UNINOR Kickstarts it’s Network Upgradation DOCOMO Will Be Washed Out What Do you Say?
Santu Sovan Mandal December 5, 2010 at 11:44 am
Bsnl hasn’t restricted speed till now in my area. I’m getting around 2mbps speed using 2g under 3g network.
sahil December 5, 2010 at 11:32 am
I believe even the TATA DOCOMO employees would have been using bsnl 3g at their home for downloading!!!
Keshav Jha December 5, 2010 at 10:53 am
BSNL has restricted 2G data speed in 3G network to 128 kbps. I think Docomo also has done this.
riju December 5, 2010 at 10:22 am
do you know, in kerala every district HQ and so many other cities are covered with bsnl 3g.but tata docomo covered only one city and test in another city.(that means only one city with in this period).
Amit Deb Biswas December 5, 2010 at 8:15 am
Are bhailog, tata docomo ko itna parishani mat karo.. Just wait for six month.. And see what is going to happen.. The 3g plan will come moon to earth..
vinay December 5, 2010 at 2:41 am
very good analysis. 3g fits only for those status savvy ppl.
btw, y dont these operators use data cards like OMH handsets, with insertion of a sim or chip of any operator in the said data card? buying data cards worth 2000-2500. n if v r nt satisfied with service of the operator, then throw that card?
jdjain December 5, 2010 at 2:02 am
well , i said docomo will fight back very soon , they know , they did mistake ,
Well real game changer is Reliance 3G\\
and more and super more game changer is Reliance Infotel
Mukesh je comes up with a cool product always , docomo and all other MNC are dumb in front of mukesh ,
tushar k. December 5, 2010 at 12:54 am
@tushar k.
i am telling this because since last 2 days, i am spending more than 5 minutes for 150kb of browsing from docomo gprs here in govandi, mumbai
tushar k. December 5, 2010 at 12:46 am
docomo is not providing gprs service neatly in mumbai
then who can say about its so called 3G quality?
first they should provide excellent gprs service for existing customers.
Tushar Gaikwad December 5, 2010 at 12:35 am
I have always supported BSNL right from the start.
I have used BSNL services from the start of Cellone to the current BSNL Mobile. It has been a varied quality experience….
Once upon a time, I had to dial a number twice to talk to someone……or listen to the “All lines in this route are busy” messages….
Things gradually improved for BSNL as well as me….’BTW I am still unhappy with their On-Call Customer Care’.
I hope BSNL improves its position in the Industry as it is the only one which is truly working for the nation……
I am not against any private telcos’ but they have never come close as a real competitor to BSNL in terms of transparency…..
- Tushar Gaikwad.
Prashant p December 5, 2010 at 12:31 am
Everyone knows about the BSNL/ MTNL prcedure for set up a single cell site so that Govt offered them 1st spectrum, if you check with pvt ops & PSU they implement 3G network in few months other side BSNL yet in the process to set up sites. Thanks to ITI & ALLU for 3rd class technical support. Everyone knows Mh Goa circle 3G services delayed only because of BSNL these type of vendors.
Prashant p December 5, 2010 at 12:25 am
No, If we check the manpower & all BSNL expenses are more than any other operatos, BSNL hav their own permanant employees who are getting 5 digit salary, every circle have GM, DGM for each services like landline, CDMA, GSM, BB etc other side pvt operators have 90% vendors for everything so they have less expenses on their own staff, BSNL need to work for integrity not for profit, BSNL always offers better services for non profit areas, other side pvt ops only serve to profit areas these things increase the losses of PSU operators. As per the Pitroda’s report BSNL have 1Lakh unwanted manpower & for them paying much more every month. Most of the BSNL employees are wanted to implement Pitroda’s report for BSNL to become profitable firm & wanted to become Nav ratna again but BSNL Union…………F**K
Sandy December 4, 2010 at 11:42 pm
It is really not good but may changes after actual competition starts and when Airtel, Reliance and Vodafone comes in the market.
Let’s hope a fair competition and good value for money for everybody.
Prashant p December 4, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Nice comparison table, which declared that finally both PSU operators are cheaper than Pvt operators then why are you all waiting for go & grab BSNL & MTNL as per your circle. In China subscribers are using 98% Govt owned mobile service & in Indians are using private operators services which are costly. Grab MTNL /BSNL services & do follow up for better network coverage, services with your circle head.
RAGHU December 4, 2010 at 10:18 pm
@amit.g
Tata Docomo will loose customers in 3g also definitely.if they had been competitive it would have been nice
Abhijit S December 4, 2010 at 9:59 pm
When 3G auction was completed, private operators already announced that 3G tariffs will not be low. Then Tata DOCOCMO launched 3G, the first private operator, and on seeing their 3G tariff, we all were bowled out. he he he…
But we will be clean bowled when operators like Vodafone, Airtel, Idea will launch their 3G. Guys just imagine their tariffs..
BSNL made a big mistake in 2G by allowing private operators to share 2G towers and that was the point where they were lost. google for more history. But in 3G, hope they will not share with other operators and also maintain the towers well.
BSNL will never increase their rates from current excluding some promo offers. In fact, they will mostly lower it by 5% again. Anyone is ready to pay BSNL to use 3G with a blindly and that is the biggest strength of BSNL.
BSNL rocks in broadband also. And landline of BSNL are still used in many homes, villages (corporates prefer Reliance, Tata coz they prefer corporates like Mr. Ratan Tata, Mr. Anil Ambani). Golden days for BSNL are back guys!
Kudos for BSNL.
steve December 4, 2010 at 9:47 pm
bsnl also paid same amount wat private operators have paid@riju
riju December 4, 2010 at 9:40 pm
ya it is correct.the main thing is that bsnl got spectrum very early.
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 9:37 pm
If private companies paid big amount on licence for 3g then BSNL/MTNL have paid the biggest amount for 3G.
It was mandatory for BSNL/MTNL to match the highest bid amount in a circle.
For more info. see http://www.dot.gov.in/as/Auction%20of%20Spectrum%20for3G%20&%20BWA/sprectrum_2.pdf at para 6(h)(i)
think123 December 4, 2010 at 9:32 pm
true but bsnl was 1st to start 3g and by now they must have at least earned some amount of investment so they are in a position to reduce tarriff where as these private player have not started earning and now they want to earn it fast .
vIsHwA gOpAl PaNdEy . .!! December 4, 2010 at 9:26 pm
hahaha Oay tu toh jotshi nikla !! lol
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 9:22 pm
I don’t raise questions about the profitability of BSNL. BSNL’s monopoly allowed it to take Rs. 9/min for STD 10 years ago as compared to 28p/min (80p/3min) now.
riju December 4, 2010 at 9:21 pm
BSNL also paid a big amount for 3g spectrum
think123 December 4, 2010 at 9:02 pm
@Amit.G
good for you as i get 3mbps speed on bsnl 3g.please enjoy your 3g life.
kai December 4, 2010 at 9:01 pm
doocmo edge is better than 3g happy no 3g of doocmo here
w8ing for vodafone and airtel tarrifs
Amit.G December 4, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Im using docomo’s 48rs internet pack in 3G band. speed never goes beyond 150kbps but positive thing is their is no fluctuation in speed, u will get a constant speed of 135-150kbps all the time.
think123 December 4, 2010 at 8:51 pm
the problem is the private players have started just now whereas bsnl is in the 3g market long ago.
thease private companies have paid big amount on licence for 3g and there is no other way to recover that other than the customers but what docomo has done is absolutely ridiculous by offering such plans.
they have made there own mockery.i bet they have not got even one customer for 3g and if somebody has opted for 3g life then tata will suckout there life by such plans.
bsnl at present is the best rest wait till new year.
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:50 pm
have you ever think about why bsnl went to loss.The total profit after tax of bsnl in 2006-2007 was 7805 cr. in 2007-08 it was 3009 cr. in 2008-2009 it was 574 cr.
after this can you say the loss in the last financial year was due to the revision of salaries.
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:47 pm
the bsnl employees were not a reason for the loss of bsnl.have you ever seen the past bsnl profit records.please look it in bsnl website.
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:41 pm
it is only your dream.other pvt. operators will charge like this on data and calls
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:39 pm
not only in bangalore.other cities are very good.
Keshav Jha December 4, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Absolutely right. I have not even tried Docomo due to tower unavailability (Not in Delhi). I am happy because there are many operators in one circle & we often got confused while choosing a good operator. Now we will have one less option. We have expelled Docomo.
Varun December 4, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Im using BSNL 3g connection in Panchkula. I experience frequent call drops even on 3g network. Also, they do not charge calls per second like other operators do( leads to a considerable saving on other networks).
I hope Airtel does a better job. Anyone has any news of 3g roaming ; in states where particular networks have not taken licenses ?
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:33 pm
it is not correct.bsnl will not increases the prices.
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:31 pm
I don’t have any hope on aircel 3g.It may also like this.
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Strongly agree with Keshav Jha.
Reliance reduces terrif and when it gains customers it increases the terrifs for new customers. Then customers are cheated by reliance by frequent call drops, self activating VAS and may other ways.
Waiting for MNP…
Jay December 4, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I think if you are really not interested in video calls, wait for another 6-9 months when Wireless Broadband services will rollout, which has potential to offer 100 Mbps in downlink and 50 Mbps in uplink. It is worth to give money for this kind of speed.
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Do not agree….
If I a selling something and earning handsome profit, I will never reduce the selling price unless I face competition in the market.
Top brass of BSNL would like to be in good books by showing BSNL in profit, and its employees would like to take home good bonus.
So let us pray that at least one competitor should be there for BSNL, otherwise BSNL’s monopoly will ruin the BSNL itself.
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:23 pm
i am very sad that one 3g license in kerala is waste
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 4, 2010 at 8:18 pm
@Keshav Jha
I Think MNP Will Swallow DOCOMO CUSTOMERS Wat Du U Say?
Amit.G December 4, 2010 at 8:17 pm
@ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR
Arjun one correction Uninor has 31% active customers,Stel 24%, Videocon 39%, Docomo has 45% active subscribers, Airtel=90% Idea 88% Vodafone 75%, MTS 45%, Aircel 56%.
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 8:17 pm
And BSNL’s image has gone in positive direction.
Keshav Jha December 4, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Reliance aisa kar sakta hai, kyonki Reliance ko customer se paise lootne ke aur bhi tareeke aate hain. Ek haath se dena phir donon haathon se lena koi Reliance se seekhe.
riju December 4, 2010 at 8:15 pm
BSNL and MTNL can slash their 3g tariff.Because they already earned more revenue from 3g services.
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 8:13 pm
You may say that TATA+NTT, who are in GSM, is a failure. But not TATA, who is in CDMA, is a success.
Keshav Jha December 4, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Very very very……. good article. Tata docomo plan fits only for docomo itself. Docomo kisi galatfahmi mein hai ki customer majboor hain 3G pane ke liye. Kuchh dinon baad Docomo majboor hoga customer pane ke liye. Docomo ka impression jo positive chal raha tha ab negative ho gaya hai. Usse phir se customer ko impress karne ke liye bahut jyada mehnat karni padegi.
Amit Deb Biswas December 4, 2010 at 8:06 pm
@Sarba
thanks.. So we are waiting for others.. Lets see what happens..
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 4, 2010 at 8:03 pm
@dskushwaha
Man it’s in GSM Sector Not CDMA
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 7:44 pm
“TATA is the worst operator nowadays”????
This is totally wrong, TATA Indicom is one of the best network in India and plans are also good. Unlike RCDMA it has presence in all the circles of India and is providing good services. When TATA indicom was launched in Assam two years ago many dealers were reluctant to provide connections. They simply said “It requires a totally different handset and nobody would like to have a new one.” But TATA Indicom proved itself and is a success in Assam.
Abeer December 4, 2010 at 6:59 pm
No sir, Its the other operators who follow bsnl to reduce rates… When docomo brought 1p/sec pulse rate, bsnl was already offering call rates as low as 5p/min (in kolkata) or 10-20p/min, which effectively was way lower than docomo @ 60p/min.
Sarba December 4, 2010 at 6:58 pm
@Amit Deb Biswas
Quite Right!! Even BSNL 3G was quite expensive when it was launched initially. And if you recall from 2003-2004, at that time there were only around 2-3 operators in every circle so it was very costly.
VJ December 4, 2010 at 6:41 pm
@Merc
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Wow! good to know that bro! I’m moving to Bangalore 2morrow
Amit Deb Biswas December 4, 2010 at 6:23 pm
I think docomo also reduce their 3g tariff plan after rolling out other operators in the market.. They want earn more before that.. Price will be affordable after that, i guess.. What do you think??
velu December 4, 2010 at 6:17 pm
No chance for 500 MB for Rs 50/
Merc December 4, 2010 at 6:14 pm
docomo plans are too costly. dont they see BSNL as a competitor? bsnl 3g coverage in bangalore is awesome !
altaf December 4, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Nice
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 4, 2010 at 6:08 pm
@santosh
Problem is That NTT DOCOMO Has Joined Hands With TATA Which is The Worst Operator Nowadays TATA’s SIM CARDS are Degraded and Can’t Able To Access The Network If It Continues Like This Definitely TATA Will Get Bankrupted
VJ December 4, 2010 at 5:46 pm
TATA DOCOMO 3G for life plan sucks like anything else in this world. I’m BSNL user myself and the service is absolutely amazing. Speed is spot on.
I believe no big shots beat BSNL with there 3G suck for life plans for sure. I give you 3 reason why?
1. BSNL don’t charge for out going calls even when you are roaming, 70p/min (Which is reasonable to me) and they only charge 50p/min for incoming while roaming (which is going to waive off soon, I wish, thanks to TRAI).
2. Recently they have upgraded there towers to provide better user experience with network coverage (not sure thought, heard from some reliable source)
3. There data plan is by far the best one we have. (I’m on unlimited plan. Oh Boy! I download like hell, 160gb in one month
)
Go BSNL go, you are the best by far. Wish they maintain the same for long.
Hey! By the way, good review article. I appreciate what you doing. Keep going bro. Cheers!
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Why BSNL/MTNL will reduce terrif if they do not face any competition?? BSNL would not have reduced Landline terrif and improved quality of service, had there been no cheap mobile services by private operators.
sahil December 4, 2010 at 5:33 pm
The only competition that is looking ahead is which private will recover the money faster/first as per my observations is!!
All of the operators have already declared that 3G is not going to come cheap & also they will be covering only larger cities mostly, no small towns or big villages.
People in village will forget that their had happened a 3G auction till the time the private operators are going to reach there.
amar December 4, 2010 at 5:29 pm
@sunil kumar
What is the maximum speed you are gettin from BSNL 3G DATA card?
I want to know should i go for BSNL 500 HOME COMBO BROADBAND plan or BSNL 3G DATA plan?
Please help……
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I left my BSNL connection for RGSM last year as the later was offering cheaper calls, but I am regretting my decision because RGSM charges me in many ways- Call drops, self activating VAS, no signals even in cities, railway station, highways.
The same will happen with Reliance 3G.
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Good joke on DOCOMO. 8-D
dskushwaha December 4, 2010 at 5:15 pm
If there is no competition, BSNL will recover its expenses soon from our pocket by increasing data prices and reduce the quality offered. Competition is must in any sector for its own existence. So let there be cut throat competition in 3G…
Swapnil December 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm
@sahil
well said bro..agree with you.
Zaf December 4, 2010 at 5:00 pm
gr8 comparison .. thank you very much for this
Swapnil December 4, 2010 at 4:56 pm
It is clear that on one is going for docomo. And now they are losing their 2G customers too. So after the launch of MPN all over India, docomo will beg to customers to use their service. Surely BSNL is best…it will connect the India…
sahil December 4, 2010 at 4:54 pm
We have to keep hope for a decent 3G data plans or an unlimited data plan, we can just hope for only AIRCEL to do so other than BSNL.
Even today they are offering 95rs./unlimited gprs for a whole month without any crappy FUP. I can’t understand how can they offer 10kbps speed on a 3G network after Level2 FUP & don’t they have any shame left????
Imagine someone paying 2000rs & waiting google to load on a 10kbps speed ……. looks like a horrible dream but it is all possible if ur riding on the DOCOMO 3G LIFE.
sahil December 4, 2010 at 4:44 pm
like their EVDO???
vishal December 4, 2010 at 4:41 pm
@vishal
rcom will crack tata, guys wait till 1 jan,
sahil December 4, 2010 at 4:34 pm
A very true & correct article bro RDB. Thanx for writing such an genuine factful article as i was definitely waiting for such an article from some website or blog becoz there are even some websites which still publishes”TATA Docomo maintains affordability with 3G” in a flashy manner.
Yours article is a true picture of the current 3G market. & the answer to your question – Tata Docomo 3G Plans – Fits For Whom?
- These plans just fits to RATAN TATA only not for common man.
Now I only have one wish that other operators too come with similar plans, so that BSNL 3G has no competion & they acquire all the customers & recover their expenses soon & reach more cities & villages faster.
sunil kumar December 4, 2010 at 4:31 pm
nice one guys
i am a user of bsnl 3g data card with the unlimited plan
it is one awesome combination and ppl are really getting drawn to it
these big players paid big money to get the licences and now want it all back and fast.
this will only lead end users go for bsnl which is the best
hope bsnl will launch its 3g service in noida too
sri December 4, 2010 at 4:30 pm
It not 3GLife, it is 3G Knife, till now no figures from them about active 3G connections, may be zero connections!
Jai December 4, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Bhai bahut acha compare kiya hai. Par customer samjhta he nai nai cheej ke aage bhagne lagta hai.
Mai to kehta hu ki bsnl se best aur koi nahi hai.
santosh December 4, 2010 at 4:24 pm
previously I was sad that no DOCOMO 3G will available in ORISSA. but reading this i am happy that this cheater is not available in our state. I am going for BSNL.They are still in useless position in ORISSA 2G segment how can it give 21 mbps in 3G. is they are mocking us or they are really fool from birth .
vishal December 4, 2010 at 4:21 pm
i confirmed data plans they will offers data plan starting from rs.10 to 50rs, in 50rs u get 500mb valid for 30days, its confirmed, remember my words
vishal December 4, 2010 at 4:12 pm
i got news of rcom 3g plans, they will offer 20ps r to r, 60ps to other mobile, 99paisa to local landline, n 1.5 for any std no. on voice plan, pulse 1 min. on 3g data plans they will offer 30 to 50rupeees for 500 mb, 1month valid, they also offer 10mb,30.50 mb plan, will start from jan 1 only, i m talking bout mumbai,
Ramesh Darji December 4, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Very good analysis. Good job done. Surely BSNL/MTNL will win. PAN india presence and cheap as well. So let’s opt for BSNL/MTNL and that money will goes to government rather than private opearator.!!!!!!!!!
ARJUN CHANDRASHEKAR December 4, 2010 at 4:10 pm
@Amit.G
Amit U R Rite Man Coming To The Fact Now DOCOMO is Getting Worst Day By Day In India. They are Only Spending Money On Ads But Not On Network Really it’s a Big Waste
Anirban Mukherjee December 4, 2010 at 3:54 pm
at a time i had regret for docomo as it will ne not available in Kolkata. Now has no regret for this useless 3G operator.
Anirban Mukherjee December 4, 2010 at 3:48 pm
really creative criticism. surely they will learn a lesson from this article.
@Rudra:
congo dude.
Abeer December 4, 2010 at 3:46 pm
has Idea gone insanely nuts!!! 2p/kb=20Rs./MB is sh1t!! My God… No Idea… better remain No idea!!
Abeer December 4, 2010 at 3:44 pm
BSNL and MTNL are smartly waiting for more operators to launch such overly priced 3G plans n tariffs. After that they will slash their already low 3G tariffs to 50% and make a mockery of private operators :p:p BSNL/MTNL ROCKS!
Amit.G December 4, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Tata docomo really did a wrong thing by making 3G so costly. infact they could have earned doulble the current earnings from 3G if they had low 3G tariffs
Santu Sovan Mandal December 4, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Well said RDB. Docomo f****s.
Aashwinikumar Devari December 4, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I agree absolutely.. Docomo Has still not finished proper 2G coverage Roll Out.. Its hard to find proper 2G coverage at area’s other than main Cities.. or even indoors in this cities.. Getting a proper 3G coverage is impossible!! and that too 21.1mbps!! its a gimmick!!
Anbu John Boban December 4, 2010 at 3:13 pm
hope there is no competition between the biggies and public as the privaties paid hugesome money for their 3G licence in 3g circles . At present at tamilnadu . we can find three operators laid there print . BSNL,Aircel and Airtel . And Present Airtel and aircel network cant be locked over here , and bsnl is capturing every customer .we can see by the reports by trai and COAI report . bsnl is adding more and more customers.
hardeep December 4, 2010 at 3:09 pm
they’ll soon learn it the Indian way!