Exclusive : Tata Teleservices Withdraws Bid for 800 Mhz CDMA Spectrum, No Taker For CDMA in India!

After Videocon, now India’s leading CDMA and GSM Mobile service operator Tata Teleservices is believed to have withdrawn its application for bidding of airwaves in the 800 Mhz band in 3 circles which would be used for CDMA operations as TelecomTalk ‘s multiple exclusive sources confirmed.

Few days back, Videocon has also withdrawn its bid for CDMA spectrum so as of now there will be no auction for CDMA and Govt plans for 800 Mhz spectrum auction seems flop.

On October 29, Tata Teleservices has announced as a pre-qualifier in bidding process by Department of Telecommunications (DoT). The last date for withdrawing applications is 5 November.

As per applications submitted for the auctions, the only two companies were interested in 800 mhz are Tata Teleservices (TTL) and Videcon Telecommunications. Now both has been withdrawn their bid for the 800 Mhz  CDMA spectrum.

Tata Teleservices which wants to get back the three circles it lost last time after the Supreme Court cancelled 122 licenses earlier this year. But now it seems that operator realized, CDMA is not lucrative for telecom business in India.

Another CDMA operators Reliance Communications (Rcom) and Sistema Shyam (MTS India) have already stayed away from the auctions entirely.

The 2G spectrum auction is to take place on November 12 and the final list of bidders to be announced on November 6. This will be followed by a mock auction on November 7 and 8 and thereafter the e-auction of 1,800 MHz band will take place on November 12.

This Article Was Written By: Sanjay Bafna

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Sanjay Bafna is an entrepreneur and National Editor at TelecomTALK covering Mobile Operators, 3G, Broadband, 4G, LTE, Telecom Policies & Regulations and Mobile Phones. He is well known Telecom and Mobile Analyst, Love Tea and Chocolates.

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  • Shisenchi December 18, 2013 11:49 am, 11:49 AM

    its very bed news for tat employee but i think they are want to expand wifi business which just launch by tata.

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  • Abhishek December 24, 2012 1:31 am, 1:31 AM

    Absolutely..now a days evdo enabled omh handsets are launching in the market..I am using HTC DESIRE VC with tata indicom..experience is so far good..

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  • s.santra November 19, 2012 7:52 pm, 7:52 PM

    tata indicom in kolkata and wb circle has bocked many old prepaid cdma customer from their service without any warning. tata says their document mismatched and not to maintain minimum top up in 6 month. now tata says all blocked customer have to opt postpaid to retain number. is it justified?

    Reply
  • santosh November 9, 2012 8:20 pm, 8:20 PM

    whatever MTS do, they can not regain those licenses, once SC verdict came means no go back.

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  • anupam November 8, 2012 12:15 am, 12:15 AM

    Sanjay Thavi :
    @anupam
    Problem in CDMA is that these CDMA buggers lock their handsets so people are afraid of buying CDMA handset again if lock is opened they don’t offer warranty. They do not keep good models in CDMA Shops of Tata Reliance & MTS only 2 Catagories they keep other are only on their web sites. They only keep bottom range and Smart Phone range.

    THERE ARE OMH handset and OMH sim .. they are like gsm sim and open mobile buy them use them ..

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    • Abhishek December 24, 2012 1:31 am, 1:31 AM

      Absolutely..now a days evdo enabled omh handsets are launching in the market..I am using HTC DESIRE VC with tata indicom..experience is so far good..

      Reply
  • Raghu November 7, 2012 12:56 am, 12:56 AM

    @Saurabh
    yes let us wait and see

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  • Sanjay Thavi November 6, 2012 11:39 pm, 11:39 PM

    @anupam
    Problem in CDMA is that these CDMA buggers lock their handsets so people are afraid of buying CDMA handset again if lock is opened they don’t offer warranty. They do not keep good models in CDMA Shops of Tata Reliance & MTS only 2 Catagories they keep other are only on their web sites. They only keep bottom range and Smart Phone range.

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  • Sanjay Thavi November 6, 2012 11:32 pm, 11:32 PM

    @soumo
    sms START DND ON 1909

    FOR STARTING DO NOT DISTURB SERVICE

    2. DO NOT RECHARGE WITH TOP UP VOUCHER
    INSTEAD GO FOR Seconds Pack which are cheaper and they do not loot from Pack for Ring tone or wall paper. you can get it from tatadocomo web site e.g. Rs.80/- for 12000 Sec. ie.200Min

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  • zeeshan November 6, 2012 11:01 pm, 11:01 PM

    Yes Bharat Sanchar will always available for people of Bharat.@Asit Paul

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  • soumo November 6, 2012 7:01 pm, 7:01 PM

    FRIEND ME USING TATA CDMA, EVERY TIME I AM GETTING MSG FROM ” MY TATA DIVE IN PLANET” GET WALLPAPER FOR RS 10. HOW CAN I STOP THAT TYPE OF MSG FROM COMING. ME USING SAMSUNG MPOWER MUZIC PHONE. PLEASE HELP .

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  • ISHA November 6, 2012 6:35 pm, 6:35 PM

    Well said. It is a good news for Indians.

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  • KAPIL K. DEV November 6, 2012 6:30 pm, 6:30 PM

    Good slap on the face of foolish order issuing authority.As there is no auction in 800MHz, MTS and Tata will get the canceled CDMA licenses without paying any fee or with some nominal fee. Also a good news for Indian people as MTS sustains lower tariffs in India. Otherwise Idea-Voda-Airtel cartel will loot Indian pockets.

    Reply
  • Abhi November 6, 2012 12:18 pm, 12:18 PM

    @VARUN GUPTA
    No, Just the licenses in J&K, Assam and North East have been quashed.. So no need to worry about Virgin CDMA in Delhi or any other circles except these three.

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  • VARUN GUPTA November 6, 2012 12:08 pm, 12:08 PM

    i m using Virgin CDMA…So is thre any chance that they will shutdown the CDMA services?????

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  • Asit Paul November 6, 2012 11:52 am, 11:52 AM

    @sourav
    BSNL CDMA is there, you forgot it.

    Reply
  • Ramesh November 6, 2012 11:29 am, 11:29 AM

    Tata will soon surrender all of their CDMA spectrum in the country,As they are keeping EVDO data tariffs too high. Nowadays nobody buys EVDO modems. EveryOne uses GSM 3G data cards which are much cheaper. Thanks To AIRCEL for bringing down the 3G tariffs in my circle. . .

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  • Saurabh November 6, 2012 9:21 am, 9:21 AM

    @Raghu,

    Sanjay is right. As MTS had filed curative petition in Supreme Court and verdict is awaited for the same, we can’t say much about it. Supreme Court will have the final say. In case SC stays with their order, MTS will move for International arbitration where there are 95 percent chances of GoI being on the receiving end.

    In order to avoid bad circumstances and to stop MTS from going for International arbitration, SC will have to reinstate the licenses. Lets see what SC do.

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  • Nagaraj November 6, 2012 8:44 am, 8:44 AM

    There is always need to read between lines when these kind of situations. As everyone knows MTS is waiting for Supreme court judgement, govt dont want to get into embarrassing situation. Telecom department would have requested Tata and Videocon to take back their claim and will suitably awarded with CDMA license without any fees.

    This will clear all problems and govt will be relieved of unnecessary international pressure.

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  • Sanjay Bafna November 6, 2012 12:24 am, 12:24 AM

    Raghu :

    @Saurabh
    so what do u think.WILL MTS get their license back?

    supreme court will decide that.

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  • Raghu November 6, 2012 12:06 am, 12:06 AM

    @Saurabh
    so what do u think.WILL MTS get their license back?

    Reply
  • Anirban Das November 5, 2012 11:57 pm, 11:57 PM

    Saurabh :
    @Rahul,
    Grammatical mistakes does happen when posts are written in a hurry. We do see mistakes even in leading newspapers which have more than one editors. It depends on the post writer and the things going through his/her mind at that time. But it’s also true that a single error can change the whole sense.
    Even my reply on Page 1 has grammatical error in two or three lines and I accept that I was writing in a hurry.
    Anyways, thanks for intimating. I hope TT will take note of it and do their best to keep posts error free.

    I completely agree with you. Mr. Sanjay Bafna is one of my favorite writer of TT.

    Reply
  • sourav November 5, 2012 11:50 pm, 11:50 PM

    @Saurabh
    in assam and north east circle tata gsm is not available..so there is only reliance cdma have license but it has not launched its cdma service..so for assam and north east there will be no cdma operator..

    Reply
  • anupam November 5, 2012 11:45 pm, 11:45 PM

    @varun
    scientifically CDMA is the best in terms of security bugging congestion radiation benfit .. but our nation india lack scientific ideas

    Reply
  • Kingston November 5, 2012 10:28 pm, 10:28 PM

    Goverment really afraid about the MTS move on this issue. So they should allow MTS without paying any additional spectrum fee. If MTS goes international court then the judgement should come favour to MTS and it will create bad name about India among the international investors.

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  • Raghu November 5, 2012 10:16 pm, 10:16 PM

    @Saurabh
    Yes i agree with you. if MTS gets back the license they will be able to offer Cheaper tariffs but shifting to CDMA is another part as they have to improve the network a lot after getting back the License. but in the long term definitely MTS will benefit if its get license back.

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  • techfrick November 5, 2012 9:35 pm, 9:35 PM

    if mts gets back, other will also get licences back. If mts loose, no cdma will be there.

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  • krishnendu November 5, 2012 8:57 pm, 8:57 PM

    hardeep :
    its a very wise decision….. because MTS will definately get back the licenses without paying anything extra, be it from supreme court or international arbitration….. so, tata too will get ofcourse along with it!

    Well said,by withdrawing Tata might get back the license even without participating in auction.They will say if Mts is getting back then why not us.May be tata guys did not participate keeping this in mind.

    Reply
    • Amit Kumar November 5, 2012 9:42 pm, 9:42 PM

      So the operators are in win win situation. Na hing lage na fitkari, rang bhi chokho aayo.

      Reply
  • Saurabh November 5, 2012 8:18 pm, 8:18 PM

    @Rahul,

    Grammatical mistakes does happen when posts are written in a hurry. We do see mistakes even in leading newspapers which have more than one editors. It depends on the post writer and the things going through his/her mind at that time. But it’s also true that a single error can change the whole sense.

    Even my reply on Page 1 has grammatical error in two or three lines and I accept that I was writing in a hurry.

    Anyways, thanks for intimating. I hope TT will take note of it and do their best to keep posts error free. :)

    Reply
  • Saurabh November 5, 2012 7:57 pm, 7:57 PM

    @Suraj Jain,

    You can port to Tata GSM but you will require a new GSM handset. You can also get your handset unlocked from open market in case you bought it from Tata. After that port your number to Reliance CDMA in case you’re a CDMA fan. If you have an OMH handset just port out to RCDMA.

    But in case, MTS licenses gets reinstate, Tata will also get their licenses back. You’ve time until Jan 18, 2013. No need to hurry until then.

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  • hardeep November 5, 2012 7:56 pm, 7:56 PM

    its a very wise decision….. because MTS will definately get back the licenses without paying anything extra, be it from supreme court or international arbitration….. so, tata too will get ofcourse along with it!

    Reply
  • AJAY DUTTA November 5, 2012 7:26 pm, 7:26 PM

    TT please do in-depth analysis of this step taken by tata and its future implication… things doesnt look that much simple as its seen…

    Reply
  • Asit Paul November 5, 2012 7:13 pm, 7:13 PM

    @Suraj jain
    Yes, you can port CDMA number into GSM.

    Reply
  • varun November 5, 2012 7:04 pm, 7:04 PM

    Now it is clear that those idiots who keep on saying cdma is good, cdma is best…now its a direct slap to their faces n now everyone knows that people who use cdma are only mango people(aam admi). And in language of KRK(Kamaal R Khan) 2rs people

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  • Amit Kumar November 5, 2012 6:51 pm, 6:51 PM

    Now that there are no takers for spectrum in 800 Mhz band, could it be deposited in Swiss Banks ???

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  • Karan November 5, 2012 6:39 pm, 6:39 PM

    In J&K roaming is not allowed and the remaining 2 eastern circles will not create much impact. So, we may call it a wise decision on part of TTL. @Saurabh

    Reply
  • Suraj jain November 5, 2012 5:58 pm, 5:58 PM

    Does that mean TATA service in ASSAM & NE will be withdrawn soon ??

    BTW can CDMA numbers be ported to GSM :-(

    Reply
  • krishnendu November 5, 2012 5:55 pm, 5:55 PM

    welcome back MTS!Now GOI is really in a mess.

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  • ram November 5, 2012 5:45 pm, 5:45 PM

    Tell me now the tariffs will rise, no takers for spectrum ftw!

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  • Saurabh November 5, 2012 5:26 pm, 5:26 PM

    @Karan, These 3 circles are- Assam, Jammu & Kashmir, North East States. Tata has around 3.2 Lakh or 0.32 million customers only in these 3 region. So they won’t lose much but users do who bought locked CDMA handset. As of September 30th, 2012, Tata Docomo has 78.3 million wireless subscribers which will be 0.32 million less from next year or even earlier.

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  • Saurabh November 5, 2012 5:12 pm, 5:12 PM

    The honorable Supreme Court should have had treated both segments differently. We all know about the discrepancies in GSM spectrum allocation but as MTS was the only player to apply for CDMA license in 2008, it shouldn’t have been treated the same way. For GSM, some companies even applied after the deadline or it was extended just to benefit some companies but same wasn’t the case with MTS and Tata CDMA application. So, they should get relief.

    Tata’s withdrawing application shows that companies operating CDMA also don’t want to continue. Tata said that applying for circles where they are already having losses doesn’t make sense. Whatever, there will be no auction for CDMA spectrum now and Govt’s problem on MTS issue is increasing.

    Supreme Court should reinstate MTS license. But it will be a bigger problem for GSM operators as MTS will enjoy PAN-India spectrum at low cost for next 16 years and will be able to provide cheaper tariffs and people will definately shift to CDMA for cheaper services. Also MTS will be in a position to buy a GSM company like Aircel which already has ON SALE tag.

    Let see what’s in MTS fate now.

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  • Tharun George November 5, 2012 5:07 pm, 5:07 PM

    So what’s Gov going to do with it? I suggest it should be given to Military or something.

    It was a foolish move to cancel CDMA spectrum. Everyone was trying to get rid of it.

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  • Karan November 5, 2012 5:03 pm, 5:03 PM

    Which are these 3 circles? Previously TTL was a pan India operator. But now as it has decided to keep away from auction, how it will provide roaming service in these circles?

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  • Asit Paul November 5, 2012 5:01 pm, 5:01 PM

    So, Tata CDMA will not available in 3 cancelled Circles!
    I cant help laughing thinking DoT estimate to earn Rs 45,000 Cr in 2G Auction.

    Reply

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