TDSAT Reconfirms Vodafone India Licenses, Spectrum are Technology Neutral

TDSAT Reconfirms Vodafone India Licenses, Spectrum are Technology NeutralVodafone, in a letter to DoT and the Empowered Group of Ministers, has pointed out that the TDSAT Order dated 01.08.12 in Petition No. 461 of 2012 is a re-confirmation that its licenses and spectrum are already technology neutral.

It was submitted that this was evident from the fact that the Tribunal whilst narrating the facts has recorded that “The basic facts of the matter is not in dispute.” and whilst narrating these facts has noted that:

“The petitioners are licensees according to them there cannot be any doubt or dispute that the licenses granted to the Petitioners are technology neutral and consequently they are entitled to use the spectrum allocated to them pursuant to or in furtherance of the license granted in their favour in any manner whatsoever and irrespective of the nature of the spectrum.”

It was further pointed out that the Petition has been held to be non-maintainable on the grounds that the guidelines which had been challenged had not attained finality nor were they capable of being enforcement against existing licensees. The Tribunal however gave Vodafone the liberty to approach the Tribunal again as and when the occasion arises.

Vodafone has thus submitted to DoT and the EGOM that given the undisputed fact that they are entitled to use the spectrum allocated to them in any manner whatsoever and irrespective of the nature of the spectrum, DoT should not take any decision unilaterally amend the technology neutrality/ already liberalized spectrum, enshrined in the Agreement as this may constitute an arbitrary and illegal action.

It was also stated that any further decision that is contrary to this well entrenched principle will be equally arbitrary, illegal and bad in law.

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  • Wakil August 25, 2012 11:53 pm

    please dont use vodafone 3g in transyamuna area of delhi, speed average only 3-50 kbps, yes u c rightly. Idea is best in these area. Telling this after personally experiencing and wasting thousands of rupees on scamsters like reliance netconnect+, very average providers like vodafone. Mtnl offered decent but fluctuating speeds.

  • singh August 7, 2012 6:21 pm

    @zeeshan
    hello zeeshan, today i bought BSNL sim and i got offer with full talktime and some free calls. My hand set is nokia c2 which is dual phone. Now i need one more sim card. Pls guide me, i am bit confuse between reliance, idea, airtel and vodafone or if any one. Pls suggest which one would be best for second sim.

  • zeeshan August 5, 2012 10:38 am

    If dot takes action against airtel, vodafone and Idea for providing 3G services where they do not have spectrum then 3G of Airtel will stop working. 3G of Airtel will work same as vodafone as Airtel also uses Idea’s 3G network. As far as 2G in concerned only three operators operates on 900 Mhz. 1. BSNL, 2. Idea and 3. Idea. Choice is yours. Best of luck. @Fahad

  • Fahad August 5, 2012 4:39 am

    @zeeshan
    Thanks and ya I have both sims of bsnl ….
    2g and 3g….
    Few months back I used to get speeds Up to 5-6 mbps on my both sims but now I hardly get 300 kbps ….reliance provides me speeds Up to 1 mbps and tata up to 700kbps but here mtnl gives me constant 2.4 mbps except at evening time when speed gets a bit slower and often disconnects….
    in bsnl I hardly get connected to 3g as most of the time their won’t be any link….
    Used 3g on vodafone today and it was fantastic …. Coverage wise it was good as it is using idea’s network and even I was getting cobstant speeds up to 3.2mbps…. The problem is that I can’t trust vodafone ….in mp nagar the story is different as almost everyone provides great speed of 3g their…..
    used idea sim of my bro … their 3g is good but 2g is pathetic as I need a 3g sim for my ace plus and note and 2g for my c3322….
    Till now I found bsnl to be best except for the few months that’s when their 3g became pathetic….
    Will see this airtel and then will decide as its the only operator I haven’t tried yet

  • zeeshan August 5, 2012 3:36 am

    If your MTNL SIM is working fine on 3G it means there is no problem with the network of BSNL. It means there might be issue with your SIM card or mobile settings. Two kinds of SIM are sold by BSNL here. One is normal 2G and other is USIM or 3G. If do not have USIM kindly upgrade to it. This may solve your problem.
    If you are frequent roamer BSNL will be best for you for both 2G and 3G.
    Only four players got the 3G license in MP and CG 1. BSNL, 2. Reliance, 3. Idea and 4. Docomo. You have used reliance and docomo both and not satisfied with it. AS far as speed is concerned Idea is better but you can not roam with idea in other circles. So BSNL is left with Pan India 3G license and most important Your 3G pack will work throughout India. This is not the case with Idea. So my recommendation to you is BSNL.@Fahad

  • zeeshan August 5, 2012 1:36 am
  • Fahad August 5, 2012 1:23 am

    @zeeshan
    Can you tell me which is the best network for using gprs and 3g in Bhopal….
    Tata is pathetic at hoshangabad road no network at home videocon is not allowing to use its gprs packs on Android phones and dongles…
    Vodafone gives me 25 to 38 KBps but only after 12 am ….
    Reliance 3g is pathetic just.like bsnl and tata….
    Do you know anything about airtel as I haven’t used it ….
    At present I am using my mtnl no. for 3g services which is better compared to all other….
    But still I am confused that when I can use 3g properly on mtnl then why not on bsnl ….
    Thanks in advance…
    Do tell me about airtel and aircel or the best operator for 2g and 3g

  • singh August 5, 2012 12:34 am

    so now as per your information idea is operating on 900 and bsnl is also on 900. So between this 2 which one is best and reliable.

  • zeeshan August 4, 2012 11:43 pm

    @singh
    BSNL has 900 Mhz spectrum in every circles. 900 Mhz provides better coverage than 1800 Mhz. Lesser will be the Hz, more will be the coverage.

  • singh August 4, 2012 10:51 pm

    @zeeshan
    thanks zeeshan for suggestion. on which Mhz BSNL operates in M.P. and which frequency is good 900 or 1800. which gives best network?

  • zeeshan August 4, 2012 3:36 pm

    @singh
    IN MP and CG circle Idea is better than vodafone in coverage as idea operates on 900 Mhz and vodafone is better than Idea in terms of charges. BSNL will be the best option for you. Vodafone operates on 1800 MHz in MP and CG.

  • singh August 4, 2012 3:05 pm

    between idea and vodafone which one is better in terms of network and charges. Pls suggest me

  • zeeshan August 4, 2012 1:20 pm

    For your information Nokia 3G the lowest cost 3G set of Nokia can work on following WCDMA/band 850 Mhz, 900 Mhz, 1900 Mhz, 2100 Mhz, Source http://www.nokia.com/in-en/products/phone/nokia-c2-01/specifications/
    for specification of Nokia Asha 303 click below link nokia.com/in-en/products/phone/nokia-asha-303/specifications/
    similarly every 3G phones of nokia even samsung can work on 900 Mhz UMTS band for ex click below samsung.com/in/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/dual-sim-phone/GT-S6102UWAINU-spec
    hope you will understand @anubhav11@Saurabh

  • zeeshan August 4, 2012 1:09 pm

    every 3G handset available in India can work on 900 Mhz 3G network.Even C2-01 can work on 900 MHz UMTS spectrum. Just visit official website of nokia and samsung and refer technical specification of every 3G handset. @anubhav11

  • Saurabh August 4, 2012 1:05 pm

    @Zeeshan, Did you understand what I wrote? It’s not true that all phones in the market support 900/1800 in 3G also. Even small phones like Nokia C1 or C2 are Tri-band or quad band but it’s for 2G network only. It doesn’t mean if operators starts providing 3G on 900MHz band then users of these phones can also use 3G. It’s a hardware specific thing, like my old phone Nokia N73 ME had support for 2G: 850/900/1800/1900 and in 3G, it had support for 2100MHz. So people can’t use 3G in it if operator switches to 900MHz band. It was just a WCDMA phone with max. 384Kbps i.e why I bought Huawei K4505 modem with HSPA+ support with speed upto 28.8Mbps when 3G was launched in my area. This dongle has quad-band support for both 2G and 3G. There are numerous phones by Nokia, Samsung, Sony Ericsson which don’t have support for 900MHz 3G. But phones launched during last 1 year or more do support it.

    Though 900MHz band can solve coverage problem and save infrastructure cost but it’s not efficient for carrying high speed data. You can not expect 900MHz band to provide faster speed like that of 2300MHz. That’s why I said lower bands can be used in towns and villages where lower speed will not be a big issue and use higher band in cities. It is easy to recover cost in cities then in towns or villages.

  • anubhav11 August 4, 2012 11:36 am

    @zeeshan
    Providing 3g on 900 mHz band is very difficult due to lack of 3g devices running on 900 Mhz as earlier mentioned by @Saurabh

  • zeeshan August 4, 2012 3:36 am

    BSNL has spectrum in 900 Mhz everywhere. 6.2 Mhz of 900 Mhz spectrum in each circle except Jk where BSNL has 8.0 Mhz of 900 Mhz spectrum. Soon MTNL will be BSNL and MTNL also have 6.2 Mhz of 900 Mhz spectrum in both the circles. If liberalisation takes place BSNL and MTNL will surely hold minimum 5 Mhz of 900 Mhz spectrum throughout India as 5 Mhz is minimum requirement for UMTS servies. They can provide both 2G and 3G services on 900 Mhz on pan India basis. @Saurabh

  • zeeshan August 4, 2012 3:25 am

    @Saurabh
    BSNL has 900 MHz in each circle. 6.2 MHz in every circle except JK where BSNL has 8.0 MHZ 900 Mhz spectrum. Soon MTNL will be BSNL and MTNL also has 6.2 Mhz 900 Mhz spectrum in both the circles. Surely MTNL and BSNL will even hold minimum 5 MHz of 900 Mhz spectrum throughout India if librelisation takes place. By which they can provide 2G and 3G services both.

  • zeeshan August 4, 2012 3:16 am

    @Saurabh
    BSNL will provide 3G on current 900 Mhz which it being held by BSNL along with 2G services like CDMA player are doing. And every 3G phones available in indian market suport 900 Mhz band. You may chech handset specification of any handset in GSM arena website or official website of concerned manufacturer. For ex type in google specification of Nokia Asha 303. You will understand.

  • Saurabh August 3, 2012 9:41 pm

    @Alaistair @Zeeshan,

    BSNL and Vodafone don’t have spectrum in 900MHz everywhere.

    The other concern is, not all phones and dongles have support for 3G on 900/1800MHz. As 2100MHz was standardized band for 3G, a majority of devices has support to it and not other bands. But from last year, phones and other devices released in the market have support for it.

    There is a very less scope of operators using lower bands for 3G in cities but it can help them in towns and villages.

  • zeeshan August 3, 2012 8:40 pm

    @Alaistair
    BSNL will surely provide 3G services on 900 MHz band throughout India whether 900 MHz spectrum will be librelised or not. If librelisation takes place BSNL will hold minimum 5 MHz of 900 MHz spectrum in every circle because 5 Mhz is minimum requirement for UMTS services.

  • Alaistair August 3, 2012 7:05 pm

    @Sanjay Bafna,So does this mean Vodafone can offer 3g services in their 2g waves 900/1800 MHz quota?