Tata Teleservices To Submit Additional CDMA Spectrum back to DoT in all circles except Delhi and Mumbai

According to our exclusive sources, Tata Teleservices Limited (TTSL) all set to submit its additional CDMA spectrum back to the Department of Telecommunications (DoT) in all circles except Delhi and Mumbai to avoid one time payment charges.

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Recently,the telecom department (DoT) had imposed a one-time spectrum charge on airwaves held by existing mobile phone companies (CDMA and GSM) after the central Government had cleared the proposal in late 2012.

For CDMA operators, the charge has been applied prospectively for all Spectrum beyond the 2.5 MHz mark in the 800 MHz band (CDMA) and is based on the reserve price of the March 2013 auctions for these frequencies.

Earlier, Tata Teleservices has already discontinue its CDMA mobile operations in Jammu and Kashmir, Assam and the North-East circles and increasingly shifting their attention and investment to GSM/3G operations in all other circles.

Presently Reliance Communications, Tata Teleservices, Sistema Shyam (SSTL), BSNL and MTNL hold spectrum beyond 2.5 Megahertz (Mhz) in a few telecom service areas.

SSTL/ MTS India which recently won 3.75 Mhz spectrum in 8 circle will not have to pay one-time spectrum fee for these area but the spectrum held by the company in Rajasthan circle falls under the ambit of the order.

As per the initial estimates,  our sources said that one time Spectrum Fee on RCom and Tata Teleservices amounted to about Rs.1,752 and Rs.1155 crore respectively, after the Cabinet had reduced CDMA spectrum base price for auction by 50%.

Tata Teleservices move may be good for SSTL which is operating pure CDMA mobile services under the brand MTS India. MTS and can now take additional spectrum from the auction of CDMA airwaves in future to make 5 mhz continuous spectrum to deploy LTE 4G services.

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  • Saurabh Gupta April 17, 2013 10:24 pm

    when i visited UP East circle last month most of the time it was under vodafone network and incurring roaming charges GPRS was not working at all and charged sms @ Rs. 3.45 where as my Reliance GSM reliance only (where ever network was there :p ) and no roaming charges also only local charges were applicable .TATA is charging roaming charges in UP East where as it should not be for a UP west customer

  • SREEKANTH JAYADEVAN April 17, 2013 8:51 pm

    I’m using TATA DOCOMO since its launch and I.m happy with it. Yes there are network failure issues but I’m surprised by the connectivity I got when I went to Puttaparthi recently. Almost every where I got coverage and I’m happy with it.

  • ajy April 17, 2013 7:18 pm

    i work in mumbai and basically from himachal pradesh..reliance and tata both have started service in our town in himachal at same time but from last one year tata cdma tower is not working but reliance is working even m getting 256kbps speed on my netconnect+ at 1x mode whenever m in my hometown..so its better for them to return specturm bcoz they are not using it properly

  • Kaushik Roy April 17, 2013 6:03 pm

    TATA NEW ADVERTISEMENTS IN KOLKATA
    YOU CAN GET TATA DOCOMO SIGNAL EVERYWHERE IN KOLKATA

    • vineet April 17, 2013 8:03 pm

      FOR GSM OR CDMA

      • Kaushik Roy April 18, 2013 9:44 am

        THE ADVERTISEMENT SAYS – CATCH OUR NETWORK EVERYWHERE

        ITS FOR BOTH GSM AND CDMA

    • sayan April 17, 2013 11:45 pm

      Their new ads like top news channel use our strong network r u on the network that connects everywhere.
      Tata must be day dreaming & telling us but the crap company isnt knowing we r not day dreaming.Its just make me laugh wen i watch those ads.If voda or airtel have said then it would have some mean.

  • SS April 17, 2013 5:56 pm

    TATA Docomo must focus on providing cheap and efficient GSM services instead of hiking tariff which is not at all expected from such operator which has pathetic coverage.

    Well. they must also focus on CDMA data services because they were much free from congesion and offered all india free roaming. However, the photon+ plans were very costly!

  • Saurabh April 17, 2013 5:50 pm

    It’s not that Tata is going to focus on GSM and 3G services or its expansion by returning excess CDMA spectrum as in Himachal Pradesh which is our neighboring state, they have scaled down their services and turned off most of their towers. I personally visited there and while roaming thru various places, my TD number latched on Vodafone even at places where their network was present. So, they are scaling down operations in non-performing circles too like Aircel. Actually this (returning excess spectrum) will not bring in any money for them. It only restrict the outflow.

    They are operational in 19 circles on CDMA. They have 2.5 MHz in 8 of those (so no problem) and will return 16.25 MHz in other 8 circles. Have 5 MHz in Delhi and Mumbai and 3.75 MHz in Rajasthan. So, needs to pay for 6.25 MHz only but Delhi and Mumbai has the highest per 1.25 MHz price.

    As I said they have scaled down operations to some extent in HP and may stop it completely in coming days, so there are chances of scaling down in other circles too where it’s not performing. If this happens, we will be back to older days when some operators like Aircel, S-Tel were regional operators. Tata’s second innings in telecom seems to be failing too. Actually they have GSM spectrum in 1800 MHz band in all circles and operational cost with this band is too high because of more number of cell sites required and from long time they aren’t able to generate enough cash to smoothly run their operations. So circle-specific approach will be good for companies like Aircel and Tata. Beside this Tata hasn’t been able to expand in their 9 3G circles, again due to liquidity problem and low revenues. The best thing they can do is return the 3G spectrum or sell it to other operators and look to add more spectrum in 1800 MHz band for LTE services on 1800 MHz band. They already have 4.4 MHz spectrum in all circles and if they can add one block per circle taking the total to 5.65 MHz, they can have 4G/LTE services.

    It may not be a good news from a customer’s point of view but good for Pan-India operators like AVoID, BSNL etc.

    • SS April 17, 2013 8:01 pm

      So TD latched onto Vodafone, you incurred roaming charges? if yes, for how much? Whether you were able to use GPRS or EDGE?

      btw, TATA Docomo network is so pathetic that if you go around international borders then it will latch onto international operators (prepaid) like Aktel in Bangladesh(I have heard this from many people)

      • Saurabh April 17, 2013 10:46 pm

        I’ve not written anywhere that I incurred roaming charges. The balance in my Docomo number was 0.23 as haven’t recharged it since Nov, 2012 and yes it’s still active even after not fulfilling the condition of Rs.100/6 months. So went there only for checking purpose. No incoming or outgoing on Vodafone network as balance was below Rs.1-1.50. Forget about data as on partner network every company charges 10p/10KB or I should say the partner charges. Beside this Videocon is also using Vodafone’s network in HP. I’m not a frequent roamer though :)

        Good news is Idea has again stopped charging for data in roaming. Idea don’t used to charge for Internet in roaming but they started in Feb, 2011 and now again stopped. They were the only operator left after Vodafone also stopped charging last year. Many of my friends who shifted from Idea to Airtel/Vodafone are back to it now. I accessed net on both Idea 2G and 3G network in HP from my Haryana number and data was deducted from my pack (Rs.21-100MB 3G). Is ko check karne k liye 21 uda diye. :D:

        • SS April 18, 2013 3:26 pm

          Any ideas regarding Airtel? I have rajasthan airtel SIM and wanna use 3G here in UP East, but problem is that, as AirTel doesn’t have spectrum (3G) here, i have to latch on IDEA’s network. So whether I am going to get charged from my data pack or from main balance.

          Just a question, any answers will be highly appreciated! :-)

          • Saurabh April 18, 2013 5:15 pm

            Yes, you will be charged @10p/10KB for using Idea 3G network on your Airtel Rajasthan number as it’s a partner’s network and not Airtel’s own network and you are using it in Inter Circle Roaming area and there is no agreement between these two for allowing customer to use data network on “Roam like Home” basis in Inter Circle Roaming Areas too. But you can use Airtel 2G network and data will be deducted from your pack and why would you activate pack on roaming number when you can do the same on your own UP (East) number.

            Here are the circle where you can use without paying extra i.e from your pack on your Rajasthan number in other 12 circles where Airtel has license to operate and 3G is present like Delhi, Mumbai, A.P, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, UP (West), West Bengal, HP, Bihar, Assam, North East and Jammu & Kashmir.

            If they do allow things like these, people in non-licensed areas will start taking SIM from the licensed areas and use Internet which will result in congestion on partner network. Same thing happened when some people start taking SIMs from MTNL Delhi and Mumbai circle and started using it in their circle on BSNL network as they were not charging extra. One of my friend living in Punjab did the same. He took MTNL SIM when he traveled to Delhi and subscribed for one year unlimited plan and used BSNL 3G network in Punjab. So it was MTNL who earned the money and BSNL lent the network. :D Some customers do misuse this facility. So its risky for operator to allow such things. But only few people do this not all.

            In my case- BSNL, Idea , Vodafone and Tata Docomo has 3G license in our circle i.e Haryana. Airtel don’t have and was providing 3G using Idea’s network as there was an agreement between Idea and Airtel for Intra Circle Roaming i.e why I was able to use 3G on my Airtel Haryana number by using Idea’s network while an Airtel Himachal customer (where Airtel has 3G license) was getting charged in Haryana for using Idea’s network because he was roaming on partner network in Inter Circle Roaming area and there was no agreement between these two for allowing customer of other circles also.

            Now if they stop charging in Inter Circle on partner network, what I will do is, take the Airtel SIM from Himachal and start using it on Idea network but I can’t do it now as 10p/10KB charge is applicable. Also, I will do this only if Airtel 3G plan in HP will be cheaper than Idea in Haryana. If plans are same why would I take Airtel HP SIM, I will use 3G on my Idea number.

            As Intra Circle Roaming is banned and operator are providing 3G in their licensed areas only, now if AVoId do get into agreement for allowing customers of licensed areas to roam without paying extra in non-licensed areas by tying up with the 3G license holder in that area, it will be good for customers. If this happens, Airtel which has 3G license in 13 circles out of 22 will have to pay Idea/Vodafone for using their network in 8 non-licensed circles (none of these three have license in Orrisa, so leave it), Idea which has license in 11 circles will pay Airtel/Vodafone for 10 non-licensed circles and Vodafone which has license for 9 circles only will pay Airtel/Idea for 12 non-licensed circles to allow their customer to enjoy data services in Inter Circle Roaming areas.

            If operators will set different price plan in different circles and Inter Circle Roaming will be allowed in non-licensed areas on partner network, I’mm damn sure people will start taking SIM from the circle which has the cheapest tariffs. :D

            I hope you get it now. btw There were some circles where customers were not getting charged in Inter Circle Roaming areas too where their operator don’t have license. For e.g- I had 3G pack active on my Vodafone Haryana number (which is a licensed operator here) and I was able to use Idea 3G network in HP and data was deducting from my data pack but now I’m getting charged 10p/10KB for same. So both Intra and Inter Circle agreements have been taken off but thing is you can still latch on partner’s 3G in Inter Circle areas.

            • SS April 18, 2013 7:19 pm

              Thanks a lot! :-)

        • aashu April 18, 2013 9:16 pm

          Bro can U believe tata docomo gsm 2g is providing downloading speed 30-40KBPS.in my town they are providing this speed on 3g pack.why they R not providing this speed on 2g plans ?

          they don’t have 3g coverage in my town.i use 21 plan 300mb 3g data for 3days.

          • SS April 18, 2013 9:45 pm

            So, you have only 2G TD network and you get only 30-40KBps on recharging with 3G data plans. If that’s so then TD again is a waste!

            Better find a 3G network in your area and get 3G speeds! I get 600KBps on IDEA 3G. Cheers!

            • aashu April 19, 2013 9:08 am

              I use 3g 21pack on my no. And its provide me 300mb 3g data for 3days.while same data and same validity plan is available in 2g @19 in up west.
              paying 2 rupees extra speed is double then 2g in 2g network.

              Idea 3g too costly then this plan

  • Sour April 17, 2013 4:56 pm

    Why tata is given more importance since its traiff prize are high and providing service which is not upto the mark

  • teletalk April 17, 2013 4:51 pm

    TATA HAS STOP THEIR SERVICES IN SOME AREAS OF GUJARAT.. ALL READY AND GSM SERVICES ALSO… I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES MADE BY TATA

  • Tharun George April 17, 2013 4:40 pm

    So if TATA returns additional spectrum how will they operate Tata Photon Max EVDO Rev B which need 2 carrier signals?

    TATA could re-auction those spectrum and could use for LTE.

  • vineet April 17, 2013 4:14 pm

    is tata going to stop its cdma service in future in all circles.

    • chitra April 18, 2013 3:46 pm

      i think yes…. they are profit based companies.. if there is no profit then why they will waste their money.. in giving service to people…