International Gsm Operators Invade Indian Airspace

Recently I had a visit to my relative’s house which is 2-3 kilometers away from India-Bangladesh International border.

I manually searched the mobile networks available at that area and found 4 GSM signals which are not of Indian operators, but of Bangladeshi operators – Grameenphone, Airtel BD, Bangla Link and Bangladesh Robi (BGD Robi).

International Gsm Operators Invade Indian Airspace

This would seriously pose a severe security threat as one can make calls with Bangladeshi operators’ SIM sitting on Indian soil, these calls can be untraceable by both Indian operators as well as Indian Regulatory authorities (if international SIM cards are used).

So now the question remains: are the signals usable / unusable? TT invites its users who reside near International border areas (Bangaldesh, Pakistan, Tibet & China) to share their findings and views with 1st hand feedback from near the border!

This Article Was Written By: Rudradeep Biswas

Rudradeep Biswas - Senior Telecom Analyst

The happy guy RDB (stands for Rudradeep Biswas) has been writing for Telecomtalk since 2009, covering mobile operators, 3G, broadband, WiFi, 4G, LTE, telecom policies and what-not related to Indian telecom. He is by profession a doctor, did his MBBS from R.G.Kar Medical College, Kolkata.

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  • sana April 12, 2014 7:39 pm, 7:39 PM

    i converted my prepaid Airtel number to postpaid and it got converted on 13 march 2014 and tele verification was done successfully.After a 14day usage of postpaid number my out going call barring on 29 march 2014. and i am secuirity depeposit 250 ruppees(company name Datasys E- Services Privat…

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  • Joyanta December 21, 2011 5:23 pm, 5:23 PM

    Electromagnetic waves cannot be controlled to cross the border or geographical territory. A weird incident happened with me regarding this signal coverage. I was in UK. I was going to Switzerland via flight. When I was crossing the Germany air space during the flight, I got a sms saying “Welcome to Vodafone Germany…” I was using the UK Vodafone connection…Now what will you say against this?? :D

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  • Sougata Dhar Chowdhury December 13, 2011 6:33 pm, 6:33 PM

    This phenomenon is not new. I’ve called a number of times to one of my students who is Bangladeshi and resides in Rajshahi. He used to be a student of Viswa Bharati, Shantiniketan and used to use a BSNL connection on his mobile. When he used to visit his native place at Rajshahi, we could easily talk as BSNL signal from Maldah District used to be available at Rajshahi.
    Also, at many places along the border, Bangladeshi SIMs are available at a premium and many people use them illegally in India to talk to Bangladeshi subscribers.
    ISD calling at local rates…

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  • AP December 12, 2011 9:24 pm, 9:24 PM

    @Arif Since when has 900-1800 Mhz been propagated by the ionosphere in any usable manner? If this was possible, we would not need mobile phone towers. Or been able to reuse frequencies at the scale that mobile networks allow us to. If you are able to receive a tower a long way off, it is only because the tower is in line of sight, and is transmitting sufficient energy to reach your device.

    I am sure how many here know this, but your phone usually gets signals from atleast 3-4 towers of your operator in any city. This is not necessarily by design either but helps provide redundancy. The phone then automatically connects to the tower with the highest transmitting power, which it presumes is also the closest one, so that it does not need to transmit back to the tower with high power.

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  • Jiten December 12, 2011 9:15 pm, 9:15 PM

    Sudhakar :To Jiten :Talk with common sense. I am not talking favour of any operator. I am coming to say is that no one can avoid the overlapping of network signals in border areas (in both national and international). So think well before blaming on the networks.
    Tata docomo has intra and intercircle agreement with Aircel which allows us to make calls using Aircel network at no extra cost. What do you say for this?. Illegal?.

    Are you fine? You suggested to me that I need to set my network setting in Manual mode whenever I am in Own LSA, that shows your expertness Sudhakar. That means you dont know the use of tht manual setting you shown your quality & knowledge about the handset & network. Haaa haa haaaa haaa. In which mode you are keeping Your handset whenever you are in Home (Your own LSA-Licensed Service Area) network? Manual? Then you are bloody expert man of the mobile user hhhhaaaaaa haaaaa hhhhhaaaa LOL

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  • Jiten December 12, 2011 9:10 pm, 9:10 PM

    Kunal :@jiten Its true, whenever i go to matheran, in many outskirts my phone shifts to dolphin from cellone. Can u believe that??? And the cell info display shows brahmand ghodbunder !!! But i was rather happy to be on home network even wen in matheran !!!!

    Yes Kunal almost MTNL Users found the MTNL Mumbai dolphin network signal in Matheran. Thanks for the information Kunal.

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  • Jiten December 12, 2011 9:03 pm, 9:03 PM

    Sudhakar :To Jiten :Talk with common sense. I am not talking favour of any operator. I am coming to say is that no one can avoid the overlapping of network signals in border areas (in both national and international). So think well before blaming on the networks.
    Tata docomo has intra and intercircle agreement with Aircel which allows us to make calls using Aircel network at no extra cost. What do you say for this?. Illegal?.

    Again you are start talking senseless, Are you ever visited to Mumbai? Even Thane Ghodbunder road? If not then don’t speak like idiots, Rread it carefully first & just read dont be a smart to post comment Thane Ghodbunder road is the part of MTNL Mumbai mobile services LSA & which is not a border area, understand first then pass your idiotic comments, here MTNL not having any nearby cellsite & BSNL Bhiwandi site signal reaches frequently our here, so we forwarded the same complaint to MTNL officer. They confirmed me that they are going to radiate a cellsite, work already in progress & it will take hardly a week to radite the site.

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  • Sudhakar December 12, 2011 7:34 pm, 7:34 PM

    Ganesh :
    Well said.

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  • Ganesh December 12, 2011 4:06 pm, 4:06 PM

    And we don’t need a security agency or a super duper device to tap on GSM (2G) signals. 2G GSM encryption has been cracked and there are device makers in Indore who make devices which can listen to any gsm device within a short range and read smses as well!

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  • Ganesh December 12, 2011 4:02 pm, 4:02 PM

    Oh damn! In borders, the signals from other countries will reach to the neighboring country. That’s what RF waves do. We can’t do anything about it. I bet there is even an agreement between tower companies who provide signals near the border of two countries so that they don’t interfere with each other.

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  • Kunal December 12, 2011 1:21 pm, 1:21 PM

    @jiten Its true, whenever i go to matheran, in many outskirts my phone shifts to dolphin from cellone. Can u believe that??? And the cell info display shows brahmand ghodbunder !!! But i was rather happy to be on home network even wen in matheran !!!!

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  • Anoop December 12, 2011 1:07 pm, 1:07 PM

    Once I received Srilanka Airtel signal in pondicherry beach, when I checked with manual mode. It is around 200kms away.

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  • Sud December 12, 2011 10:58 am, 10:58 AM

    As per my knowledge Bangladeshi Recharge also available in India ( Near border) .

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  • Sudhakar December 11, 2011 8:21 pm, 8:21 PM

    To Jiten :
    Talk with common sense. I am not talking favour of any operator. I am coming to say is that no one can avoid the overlapping of network signals in border areas (in both national and international). So think well before blaming on the networks.

    Tata docomo has intra and intercircle agreement with Aircel which allows us to make calls using Aircel network at no extra cost. What do you say for this?. Illegal?.

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  • upesh patel December 11, 2011 4:03 pm, 4:03 PM

    @Arif

    then my questions arises that is ionospere only present in border area and not here or there. i think you still gets the gsm signals in 50 km from gsm tower. good yarr give me ur handset. or tell me that which is ur handset we will buy that.dear we cannt sit quiet saying that this is due to ionsphere.this is definately for spying purpose. we all know the pakistan and we also know that few people from india helping them this is not their mistake this our mistake that bwe cannt save our country. even after knowing that who are our enemies.indians shud have strongly react such case then this will not occur in future.and pakistan like countries could never dare to do such things.

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  • Jiten December 11, 2011 3:25 pm, 3:25 PM

    @sudhakar u mean to say I need to keep my network setting in Manual mode in MTNL’s own LSA. R u fine? Why subscribers of his own LSA need to change the setting? Instead of that why mtnl not going to radiate a dedicated for this area. FYI Illegal is illegal. Why u are trying to support bsnl who are illegally entering in mtnl mumbai lsa, due to this mtnl’s lots of subscribers affected badly. What do u think is it correct ans? Then u r talking senseless. First read carefully & then if u think ur comment is acceptable by tt experts then only mention otherwise only stay happy with reading the comments & post plz, tt team nt written anywhere for tt readers that comments are compulsory for every tt users.

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  • dskushwaha December 11, 2011 11:34 am, 11:34 AM

    doc_dip :
    @jiten
    BUT DID EVER U QUESTIONED URSELF THAT WHY in a country like india there will be A’ROAMING’CHARGE?? thanks to govt that it is working towards a policy of ONE-INDIA-ROAM POLICY that prevails in many other developed contry…why we indians will give the chance to be sucked by these money-looters-telco just by roaming charge?

    Telecom operators are not looting us by charging us for roaming but it is the govt policy which made the operators to put multiple bids for different telecom circles. The same thing happened in 3G spectrum allocation. If Delhi circle was the most expensive one. The operator who got the expensive spectrum of Delhi will never want that an operator who got the cheap network of NE/Assam should get the licence of Delhi without paying anything extra.
    It is like govt. charging about Rs. 40 on Petrol and blames on High crude prices for the Petrol price rise.

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  • Fahad December 11, 2011 10:38 am, 10:38 AM

    doc_dip :
    @Sudhakar
    HAHAHAH……army intelligence ,spying HAS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT THE civilian network getting found in border areas of tamil nadu and ap/karn each other..BUT IT IS A CONCERN FOR THEM WHEN BLOODY BANGLADESHI NETWORK ARE CROSSING BORDER OF INDIA…please read some before replyoing/posting in here…….army core network NEVER EVER USES THESE airtel/etisalat/aircel/idea ….coz these are CIVILIAN NETWORK..and army core uses its own very safe secure dedicated network…
    BUT
    if u found some army guy using SOME AIRTEL.AIRCEL SIM THAT DOES NOT MEAN army core network is made of voda/airtel/aircel network…now u talk some sense…

    Then why the hell bsnl is providing network on kmr borders …. and the hell r they giving offers to army men …. They hold their wireless sets but that does not mean they have no family…
    You cant stop the signals coming from neighbouring countries or states…..
    what do u think we r smart enough to find the signals of other countries and army officials guarding the borders are sleeping ….
    You r silly….
    you can put the jammers near border same as what reliance was asked to do last year but still u can’t stop the signals from traveling ….
    It only will cause disturbance

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  • Fahad December 11, 2011 10:37 am, 10:37 AM

    doc_dip :
    @Sudhakar
    HAHAHAH……army intelligence ,spying HAS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT THE civilian network getting found in border areas of tamil nadu and ap/karn each other..BUT IT IS A CONCERN FOR THEM WHEN BLOODY BANGLADESHI NETWORK ARE CROSSING BORDER OF INDIA…please read some before replyoing/posting in here…….army core network NEVER EVER USES THESE airtel/etisalat/aircel/idea ….coz these are CIVILIAN NETWORK..and army core uses its own very safe secure dedicated network…
    BUT
    if u found some army guy using SOME AIRTEL.AIRCEL SIM THAT DOES NOT MEAN army core network is made of voda/airtel/aircel network…now u talk some sense…

    Then why the hell bsnl is providing network on kmr borders …. and the hell r they giving offers to army men …. They hold their wireless sets but that does not mean they have no family…
    You cant stop the signals coming from neighbouring countries or states…..
    what do u think we r smart enough to find the signals of other countries and army officials guarding the borders are sleeping ….
    You r silly….
    you can put the jammers near border same as what reliance was asked to do last year but still u can’t stop the signals from traveling ….
    It only will cause disturbance

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  • Sudhakar December 11, 2011 8:48 am, 8:48 AM

    To doc_dip :
    Senseless, I am talking about the spying idiots inside the army. If you do not know to comment, do not comment here.

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  • doc_dip December 11, 2011 12:48 am, 12:48 AM

    @Sudhakar
    HAHAHAH……army intelligence ,spying HAS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT THE civilian network getting found in border areas of tamil nadu and ap/karn each other..BUT IT IS A CONCERN FOR THEM WHEN BLOODY BANGLADESHI NETWORK ARE CROSSING BORDER OF INDIA…please read some before replyoing/posting in here…….army core network NEVER EVER USES THESE airtel/etisalat/aircel/idea ….coz these are CIVILIAN NETWORK..and army core uses its own very safe secure dedicated network…
    BUT
    if u found some army guy using SOME AIRTEL.AIRCEL SIM THAT DOES NOT MEAN army core network is made of voda/airtel/aircel network…now u talk some sense…

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  • doc_dip December 11, 2011 12:37 am, 12:37 AM

    @jiten
    1st of all -IN CURRENT STATUS OF INDIAN TELCO SYSTEM-signals traversing across STATE border causes revenue loss to operator..its very true
    BUT DID EVER U QUESTIONED URSELF THAT WHY in a country like india there will be A’ROAMING’CHARGE?? thanks to govt that it is working towards a policy of ONE-INDIA-ROAM POLICY that prevails in many other developed contry…why we indians will give the chance to be sucked by these money-looters-telco just by roaming charge?
    when 1 indian will travel from pune to guwahati-guwahati to madurai -madurai to mumbai why he will be charged xtra???think about it…
    now security issue-see ,data is not availble in veg/fish market at a affordable price that any foreigner will buy it with money…IT HAS A HUGE NUMBERS OF SECURITY,ENCRYPTION AROUND IT AND whoever the operator is,govt always has the upper hand at least in telco sector…….read some internet article about it u r idea will be cleared..thanks for reply

    @jiten

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  • doc_dip December 11, 2011 12:34 am, 12:34 AM

    @jiten
    1st of all -IN CURRENT STATUS OF INDIAN TELCO SYSTEM-signals traversing across STATE border causes revenue loss to operator..its very true
    BUT DID EVER U QUESTIONED URSELF THAT WHY in a country like india there will be A’ROAMING’CHARGE?? thanks to govt that it is working towards a policy of ONE-INDIA-ROAM POLICY that prevails in many other developed contry…why we indians will give the chance to be sucked by these money-looters-telco just by roaming charge?
    when 1 indian will travel from pune to guwahati-guwahati to madurai -madurai to mumbai why he will be charged xtra???think about it…
    now security issue-see ,data is not availble in veg/fish market at a affordable price that any foreigner will buy it with money…IT HAS A HUGE NUMBERS OF SECURITY,ENCRYPTION AROUND IT AND whoever the operator is,govt always has the upper hand at least in telco sector…….read some internet article about it u r idea will be cleared..thanks for reply

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  • Sudhakar December 11, 2011 12:22 am, 12:22 AM

    To jiten :

    Why can’t you change the network search mode to manual rather than automatic in such cases?. Are you lazy to do so?. LOL LOL. Talk with sense.

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  • jiten December 10, 2011 11:50 pm, 11:50 PM

    anupam :so these operators have good coverage even outside their legal are and our govt operator like MTNL cant serve own country area ..shame

    How you know tht they covered entire indoor network coverage of their country? are you thinking that after covering the entire country they radiate the border area? & why are you targetting only to MTNL delhi mobile network? are you confirmed that other opeartors are covered Delhi circle 100%? If yes then let us know the name of that operator who are covered entire Delhi LSA. Please tell only one operator who covered the entire Delhi LSA strongly including indoor & outdoor network.

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  • HIMANSHU OJHA December 10, 2011 11:45 pm, 11:45 PM

    I’ve searched and got signals of Mero Mobile just near the Nepal border yesterday but not only this my airtel,bsnl and reliance mobile covered within 3 kms in nepal…

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  • jiten December 10, 2011 11:41 pm, 11:41 PM

    @doc_dip
    If its concern to security then Govt need to shut off all the VOIP, Yahoo messenger, Gtalk etc applications to stop intra country conversation. Govt need to think on it if it’s really threat to our security concern via telecommunication among neighbour countries. Every illegal entry need to be stopped by telecom authority instead of thinking about border only. Illegal is illegal if it’s concern to intra state/circle or country border. Their must be only one view instead of two different views. Vodafone, Uninor, Docomo, etisalat etc are also not indian companies they also can become threat for security of our country, then what you can comment on it? Neighbour countries not require any support from their own countries operator they always collect the data, privacy from enemies countries non national operators, they will collect the data, privacy from VF, AT, DOCOMO or other pvt firms whose aim is business or money only. For e.g. Without verification, without proper address proof, photo id pvt firms issue sim cards which will never find in PSU operator who are always obey the guidelines prescribed by the TRAI & DOT. So think positively instead of local & border. If you check our history concern to bomb blast in country which was completed via mobile, private ops sim were found in that places instead of govt ops.

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  • Lovegin December 10, 2011 11:17 pm, 11:17 PM

    When i was in bangladesh for telecom work i usually used bsnl signal in the border to call my home.its happening

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  • Arif December 10, 2011 11:10 pm, 11:10 PM

    @Upesh Patel
    Yes it is possible that GSM signal can travel 50Kms. It is due to reflection from ionosphere.

    For detail on radio Frequency Propagation and Ionosphere visit following links.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosphere

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  • jiten December 10, 2011 11:09 pm, 11:09 PM

    Sudhakar :To all users :If you tell this (getting neighbouring country’s network signal in India) illegal and unfair, then what about the issue of getting the neighbouring state’s signal in the border (for example : getting karnataka network signals in the Tamilnadu border after crossing the Tamilnadu city of Hosur when travelling to Bangalore)?.
    You even get andhra network signals (rare) when you pass by the train just before Arakkonam (in Tamilnadu) in the Arakkonam – Chennai central route. What to you say for this?.
    To Telecomtalk and all other users :D o not blindly treat each and everything as illegal. Ok?.

    Same in MTNL Mumbai Thane area’s Brahmand Ghodbundar road where MTNL users get BSNL network automatically & whenever they make local calls they get charged as roamer, such kind of burden due to BSNL tower which is located in his Mh territory but due to air direction it’s reach inside of MTNL LSA & subscribers who are mostly keeping their network in automatic mode, get fatka of roaming charges due to poor coverage of MTNL Mumbai. Already case forwarded to MTNL ED, CGMWS, CMD for further action but no revert from their end, As discussed with MTNL officer they clarify that MTNL Mumbai not yet radiated any BTS for that area so it’s happening, even they refuse to refund the excess deduction of money, they also explained that in case of emergency you will get the BSNL Mh network which is important to users than money. Such a stupid explaination from MTNL Team, is it legal? To hide their negligance they are explaining such comments to subscribers who are in MTNL LSA.

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  • Arif December 10, 2011 11:02 pm, 11:02 PM

    It is not possible to precisely control RF. Apart from mobile network you will get Bangladesh’s local radio or TV station, even pvt and govt. wireless communication you can hear. These things are common in border area.

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  • jiten December 10, 2011 10:54 pm, 10:54 PM

    Mera Desh Mahan!!! It’s true that their were no barricades for airwaves, such kind of issues are exist every LOC so it’s very much difficult to get control on it. Finally network signals are depend on the airflow direction so such kind of problem can’t be under control.
    Agreed that this is security threat & loss of telecom revenue for our country. DOT & TRAI need to take a note of such issue seriously & need to arrange network jammer in these border areas to prevent illegal network access.

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  • hari December 10, 2011 10:44 pm, 10:44 PM

    also i get pakistani signal in amaritsar panjab

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  • upesh patel December 10, 2011 9:33 pm, 9:33 PM

    @Mane dear i got one idea from ur point it is clear that we cannot get GSM signals if far from 5 to 7 km from gsm tower ok, but if u r getting pakistani gsm signals in indian territory and that is too in 50 kms from border then it is definately a case of spying, how ? may pak govt have told the pakistani gsm operator to keep the gsm signals of border area in full swing so that the people who are sitting inside the india and spying for pakistan have no uncontrol and freely communicating with pakistani parts without any problem from indian security agencies , this is why becaause u r getting pakistani gsm signal in indin territory. u have to compaliaint about this in govt agencies. this a threat to our country that so far border area u r getting the paki signals, this is surely a case to help spying.

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  • Sudhakar December 10, 2011 9:05 pm, 9:05 PM

    To doc_dip :
    Talk using common sense. I am talking about ROAMING feature and not about borders. If a neighbouring state’s network signal is got from the border area, the people of the border area can talk to their relatives in the neighbouring state at local calls which is some kind of loss to the home network (not the neighbouring one) of the place.

    The same thing happens here. It is not only because of this which becomes a threat to our national security. There are many factors like army alertness, spying idiots inside our own army itself etc.

    So doc_dip, please think before posting the messages.

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  • Amit Deb Biswas December 10, 2011 9:05 pm, 9:05 PM

    Mamun :
    From my home at Malda district I got always ‘grameenphone’, ‘aktel’ and sometimes ‘banglalink’, ‘robi’. Sometimes my docomo no get roamed in ‘aktel’!

    yes boss , my docomo sim also automatically selects aktel (now robi) tower.. Aktel has good coverage.. And we can see grameenphone BTS clearly from my mamabari.. And i used grameenphone gprs (gpworld) after planet hutch(now vodafone live) in life.

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  • anupam December 10, 2011 8:46 pm, 8:46 PM

    so these operators have good coverage even outside their legal are and our govt operator like MTNL cant serve own country area ..shame

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  • dskushwaha December 10, 2011 8:26 pm, 8:26 PM

    I have always received Grameenphone & Bangla Link Signals when I traveled from New Jalpaiguri to Guwahati or back by train.
    One thing always wonders me if Bangladesh Telecom operators signal can reach where they are not supposed to, why can’t Releance (GSM), Tata Docomo do it in India itself.

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  • joseph joy christopher December 10, 2011 7:13 pm, 7:13 PM

    indian government should think and take actions in this issue

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  • Kanchan December 10, 2011 7:00 pm, 7:00 PM

    Bangladeshi operators have been invading Indian soil for a long time now. Do u know that some people uses Bangladeshi simcard in border area? This was reported in some bengali daily years ago.

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  • Amit Deb Biswas December 10, 2011 6:35 pm, 6:35 PM

    Oh boss, i get grameenphone and robi (aktel) network in my bedroom.. And also get banglalink network on my roof..

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  • topic December 10, 2011 5:54 pm, 5:54 PM

    @Nikunj
    Why cant u give a solution for the GOVERNMENT.
    GOVT KI THODI PARESHANI KAM HO JAYEGI.

    DESH ME ILLITERATES KI KAMI NAHI HAI,

    So DEAR READERS STUDY ABOUT TECHNOLOGIES ALONG WITH UR FAVOURITE subject POLITICS.
    This will help u a lot and save ur precious time

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  • topic December 10, 2011 5:45 pm, 5:45 PM

    @Ram
    ” How about building a big wall with AMBUJA CEMENT”. I think it ll stop the RADIO SIGNALS(of foreign cell phones).
    ” is cement me jaan hai”

    SIMPLE SI BAAT LOGON KO SAMAJ NAHI AATI,

    I as a citizen of india i honestly believe in our DEFENCE SYSTEM.
    They are their to protect us from even minor disturbence on borders.
    A Big Salute to our
    ”VEER JAWANS”.

    Regarding The Frequencies no one can stop on either sides. Coz it cant b stop or restricted particular/ border limit. If we use jammers it ll either mall functon or disturb the native signals.

    Hope u peoples understand this simple technical miss understanding.

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  • Nikunj December 10, 2011 4:54 pm, 4:54 PM

    i found pakistani netork in gujarat.warid,mobilink,and other.indian gov doing nothing

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  • Mamun December 10, 2011 4:44 pm, 4:44 PM

    From my home at Malda district I got always ‘grameenphone’, ‘aktel’ and sometimes ‘banglalink’, ‘robi’. Sometimes my docomo no get roamed in ‘aktel’!

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  • Ram December 10, 2011 4:28 pm, 4:28 PM

    This is serious issue. something must be done.

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  • SD December 10, 2011 4:25 pm, 4:25 PM

    There is no point in arguing over such a trivial matter. Radio waves will reach where they can. They are not foolish & selfish like us that they differentiate between country, caste or race.

    I recently went to Mirik (West Bengal). On my way I got an SMS from NCELL (Nepalese GSM operator) welcoming me to their network. That means my mobile had unknowingly latched onto an international network. It is a TATA DOCOMO prepaid.

    This is exactly why Govt. has isolated the networks of JK, AS & NE. It is possible that every call on these are networks are monitored in real time.

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  • doc_dip December 10, 2011 3:50 pm, 3:50 PM

    Sudhakar :
    To all users :
    If you tell this (getting neighbouring country’s network signal in India) illegal and unfair, then what about the issue of getting the neighbouring state’s signal in the border (for example : getting karnataka network signals in the Tamilnadu border after crossing the Tamilnadu city of Hosur when travelling to Bangalore)?.
    You even get andhra network signals (rare) when you pass by the train just before Arakkonam (in Tamilnadu) in the Arakkonam – Chennai central route. What to you say for this?.
    To Telecomtalk and all other users :
    Do not blindly treat each and everything as illegal. Ok?.

    DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ‘STATE’ AND ‘COUNTRY’???
    karnataka and tamilnadu are both the STATES WITHIN THE VERY BORDER OF OUR BELOVED COUNTRY KNOWN AS-INDIA..
    but bangladesh is another COUNTRY not a state inside INDIA…OK???
    just some geography…thats all..
    NOW,getting karnatakas/keralas/Ap/TN signal in each other’s area is NORMAL–as in USA,state wisconsin’s tele signal is well perceived in state of neighbouring iowa,minnesota.and vice versa…but texas dont get SIGNAL fROM MEXICO..
    AS WE ALL KNOW LIKE BANGLADESHIS SWARM INTO INDIAN TERITORRY EVERYDAY THEIR SIGNAL DO THE SAME…ITS a very radical state and some part ARE VERY VERY ANTI-INDIAN…IN TIME OF emersion ceremony of durga puja ,through the river of ICHAMOTI those bangladeshis swarm sneak into india and they live in here many of them are CRIMINALS,RAPISTS,RADICAL TERRORIST WITH STRONG CONNECTION WITH PAK..some are buying land,cars with ILLEGAL VOTER ID CARD AND EVEN WITH A sc CERTIFICATE THEY ARE GETTING ADMISSION TO THE GOVT MEDICAL AND ENGG COLLEGE IN WEST BENGAL..thats the reality my friends…
    long live india jaihind

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  • adarsh December 10, 2011 3:38 pm, 3:38 PM

    i am the regular visitor of telecom talk.i also found networks of pakistan in punjab on bhagha border

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  • suraj December 10, 2011 3:31 pm, 3:31 PM

    I had a visit to my hometown which is 12-13
    kilometers away from India-
    nepal International border.
    I manually searched the mobile
    networks available at that area
    and found 3 GSM signals which
    are not of Indian operators, but
    of nepal operators –
    ncell, 42901 and 42904.

    NO NETWORK COVERAGE OF INDIAN OPERATOR BUT FULL COVERAGE OF NEPAL NETWORK OPERATOR.

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  • Neilanjan Ray December 10, 2011 3:07 pm, 3:07 PM

    Even though you people are overlooking any threat posed by some other countries GSM signal being accessed effectively within Indian territory, but it does not wipe out the threat to India when her terrorist neighboring countries are always in the look out for causing trouble and launching an attack on her. Just imagine, when a country which has provenly sponsor cross border terrorism for decades now, has their GSM operators signal freely available deep within 50 Km of Indian border for 3 years consistently, it is hard to believe that it be anything but not without any motive! Pakistan & Islam is raising a Jihad against the whole world, and this Jihad is being fought in every corner and by every means, and when we common law abiding citizen take such threats thinking they were by mistake, we are nothing but just naive!
    I don’t want it to happen, but wouldn’t be too surprised if another terrorist activity comes up in the forefront, with it’s cause being linked to this threat of Paki GSM signals being accessed within Indian territory!

    It’s a serious concern & if concerned authorities takes this easy & doesn’t act promptly, then it would just confirm once more that the people in power at New Delhi are corrupted & wouldn’t deter to sell off their mother land to foreign.
    Instead of gaging social networking sites like Facebook,Google & twitter from the Indian public, can’t they try to solve these serious issues related to the borders??

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  • AP December 10, 2011 3:05 pm, 3:05 PM

    You can’t really do much about this. Electromagnetic signals cannot be stopped from crossing borders like people unless you deploy jamming. I am sure will destroy signals of Indian operators on the same territory if they are using the same frequency band (GSM900).

    Your ability to receive or not receive a signal from a foreign operator only depends on the capabilities of your cellphone antenna. If you had better receiving equipment like much bigger antennas connected to a cellular device, and a good location, you should be able to receive the signals from much deeper in Indian territory.

    I am sure the intelligence community and the security forces know this very well. So, they will monitor transmissions on frequencies used by the foreign operators. They will use triangulation to find the spot from where transmissions to foreign networks take place from within Indian territory.

    This is an alarmist article and the author does not really seem to understand much about how the whole thing really works.

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  • Ajay December 10, 2011 2:05 pm, 2:05 PM

    In all the districts of assam that are attached with bdesh, have full voice and data accessebility of their towers… Sometimes i do surprised that in india we dont find our network whereas foreign network are available….
    Guys whats surprising is that u do find easy recharge sim available in some places mosly pan dukan for recharge.

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  • Tharun George December 10, 2011 1:53 pm, 1:53 PM

    I think it will not that easy.

    To get a sim itself we need to go or need someone at that country and to make call need to visit border.

    Voip will be much easier.

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  • Mane December 10, 2011 1:39 pm, 1:39 PM

    I am getting gsm signal of ufone pk,zong,waridtel of Pakistan in my village. Distanance between my village and Pak border is more than 50kms.
    I have been getting these signals for 3 years.

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  • Sudhakar December 10, 2011 1:38 pm, 1:38 PM

    To all users :
    If you tell this (getting neighbouring country’s network signal in India) illegal and unfair, then what about the issue of getting the neighbouring state’s signal in the border (for example : getting karnataka network signals in the Tamilnadu border after crossing the Tamilnadu city of Hosur when travelling to Bangalore)?.

    You even get andhra network signals (rare) when you pass by the train just before Arakkonam (in Tamilnadu) in the Arakkonam – Chennai central route. What to you say for this?.

    To Telecomtalk and all other users :
    Do not blindly treat each and everything as illegal. Ok?.

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  • Saurabh gupta December 10, 2011 1:37 pm, 1:37 PM

    Nearly 4-5months back NDTV showed news related to this matter in indo nepal border and sim and recharge of there companies are easily available in many areas but at premium this is due to the order of indian government which dont permit indian companies to install tower in that area so people buy there sim

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  • madhu prasad December 10, 2011 1:34 pm, 1:34 PM

    In that case even india is providing threat to nepal as many indian telecom signal are found in bordering village and towns in nepal, especially in hilly areas even more than 30 distance BSNL CDMA signals are found and people are using. Nepal govt. Has shown concern but india isn’t doing anything. Indian companies are drawing money from nepal and posing threat to nepal.

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  • Sudhakar December 10, 2011 1:29 pm, 1:29 PM

    To all users :

    I do not think this is a serious threat to national security. Instead of banning this (getting neighbouring country’s network signals in India), the government must continue its existing policies on submitting valid ID proofs for getting the SIM and verify the same.

    I agree that it is against the law to sell Indian SIM in any other country and vice versa.

    However making ID proof rules strict depends on neighbouring country also.

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  • Raaj December 10, 2011 1:14 pm, 1:14 PM

    Not a new thing.whenever i visit north-eastern states like,tripura,assam i have seen this happening.there are two more like AKTEK and GRAMEEN PHONE.whenever an indian network is out of range,these foreign netwoqks are even accessible with a R(roaming)sign on my samsung handset.but the only hope is,the signals are very weak when accessed through indian service providers and no call or sms is possible at that time.

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  • SD December 10, 2011 1:08 pm, 1:08 PM

    This is prevalent from 2006 or more ago. You will be not so happy to hear that these signals are FULLY USABLE. Sims of these Bangladeshi companies are easily available in the market(not in front of shops,but behind). Mny people in indian border areas have relatives across border & they use these sims to talk to them as local calls instead of isd calls. Also indian sim cards are available in Bangladesh, but I don’t know about the availability of signals there. Both BSF & BDR know this but due to humanitarian causes they let it be. During Durga Puja Bijoya lots of Bangladeshi people come to india crossing the rivers or border & nobody cares about who goes back or stays here or goes anywhere.
    But this is a serious threat to national security. Terrorists are increasingly using the indo-bangla border due to this loose vigilance. Smuggling of various things(mainly cow) happens all over the year at various places along the border. These smugglers often use these sim cards. You go to any border area(hasnabad/basirhat/hingalganj/bongaon/ghojadanga/maldah), you can find it yourself.

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  • Pushkar December 10, 2011 1:05 pm, 1:05 PM

    You can find pakistani towers near jammu….

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  • gaurav December 10, 2011 12:55 pm, 12:55 PM

    bsnl, mts tata and airtel have installed their towers in bheemnagar and birpur towns. After birpur there is kosi barrage and frm check naaka nepal starts, but u will get signals upto 10 km in nepal.

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  • gaurav December 10, 2011 12:52 pm, 12:52 PM

    i am frm bordering district of bihar and my ancestral village is just on indo nepal border. I too get signal of nepali telecos in india, even upto 10 kms inside the indian soil and vice-versa. Bordering towns of nepal too get indian teleco signals but just of bsnl, airtel and tata cdma. Even i was able to make calls through my bsnl and tata sims frm 10 km inside the nepal.

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  • Tremerin D'souza December 10, 2011 12:51 pm, 12:51 PM

    INDIAN SECURITY AGENCIES HAVE DEVISED A NEW METHOD IN WHICH USERS OF FOREIGN NETWORK USERS FROM INDIAN TERRITORY CAN BE EASILY DETECTED,FEW MONTHS BACK A BSNL OFFICIAL QUOTED TO HAVE DEPLOYED THIS TECHNOLOGY IN J&K AND PRIMARILY ALONG PAK BORDER.HOPE THE SECURITY AGENCIES HAVE DEVISED THE SAME SCHEME FOR OTHER INTERNATIONAL BOREDERS SPECIFICALLY CHINA & BANGLADESH.

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  • sAm December 10, 2011 12:49 pm, 12:49 PM

    I hope those signals are unusable..Otherwise our Govt should intervene into this matter. Great Going Telecomtalk. Really a good article..!!

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